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AUTHOR: R Quinn on 11/05/2025

Why oh why is it so hard for people to put shopping carts where they belong after use or at least not put them where they don’t belong?

Three times in the last week I have pulled into a handicap parking space only to see a cart left right in the middle of the space – a handicap space‼️   Of course, in addition, numerous carts are left in regular spaces, alongside cars and in some cases at the end of a parking lot nowhere near the store they came from. 

My theory is these lazy, inconsiderate dolts are the same people who live paycheck to paycheck, carry credit card balances, fail to save for their future and who will not be helped by a budget.

It’s a theory mind you, but it seems to me that inconsiderate, irresponsible behavior is rarely limited to one element of a personality. 

I bet they don’t carry life insurance either and their shopping cart is filled with junk food. They probably drive one of those Bentley SUVs, but would not leave their cart near it. 

I had a cousin who made a very good living selling shopping carts. I bet he would have liked to have seen them all sent flying off an embankment. 

Gadzooks, my theory may have reached its limit.😎

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Dan Smith
1 month ago
Reply to  R Quinn

My, my, my, the post that wouldn’t die, 
Some may have thought it funny, 
Others wouldn’t let it lie. 
One thing I know for certain: 
It wasn’t meant to cause you pain, 
Still, the man behind the curtain 
Sometimes drives us all insane. 
Next time you’re in the parking lot 
And a Mercedes is in your lane, 
Give your cart a mighty thrust 
While you raise your hand and say: 
“Hey RDQ, have a wonderful day.”

Carol Buck
1 month ago

If i recall, this is the second article you have posted about shopping carts and the people who leave them. Clearly this is one of your pet peeves. My thought all those years ago was that you did not consider that by leaving the carts in the lot, individuals are helping to support one of the few entry level jobs still available to youth. Now as a senior with three surgeries under my belt , I also understand that some have to use and abandon carts to be able to walk to and from the store. There are always different sides to the story.

chuggs
1 month ago

I shop exclusively at ALDI. Not only have I saved myself thousands on groceries through the years, apparently I’ve also saved myself the irritation of rogue carts. I’ve literally never seen one in the parking lot. Bonus!

Cecilia Beverly
1 month ago

For the first time in a very long time, I decided to take a break from Humble Dollar. I don’t have words to describe my disappointment and profound sadness that this was the post at the top of the feed. I used to love this site for the civil discussion, interesting ideas, and sense of community. If I wanted to be trolled or enticed to respond to click-bait, I’d head over to Reddit.

I’m just so bummed.

Jeff
1 month ago

Cecelia – I understand your frustration, and took a break for a while myself. But I decided to be proactive, and posted a new article last night, one that I thought Jonathan might enjoy. Perhaps more of us need to post thoughtful pieces that generate insights to share. In my humble opinion, fewer posts, but ones that share meaning and personal financially related insights.

Randy Dobkin
1 month ago

Why not just take a break from Dick’s posts?

Dan Smith
2 months ago

Bogdan, if you’re awake, could you please turn off replies to Dick’s post. Seems like everything there is to say, has already been said.

mytimetotravel
2 months ago
Reply to  Dan Smith

You can reach Bogdan by email at Newsletter@HumbleDollar.com

I once posted here that Mr. Quinn reminded me of my first husband. Arguing with him was like beating your head against a brick wall and about as useful. I eventually came to my senses and left. I have decided on the same course here and am no longer going to respond to Mr. Quinn’s rants.

Greg Tomamichel
1 month ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Dick, please read the room. It is clear that the majority of the HD community regard this is a rant, regardless of what you might term it.

You write some really interesting and thought provoking articles. Please focus your time and energy on those efforts.

Dan Smith
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Can’t argue or dispute that, Dick. You generated some serious clicks with this one.

Bill C
1 month ago
Reply to  Dan Smith

Is this website about personal finance topics, or has it devolved into some weird click bait competition? I agree with others that Mr. Quinn seems to solely focus on what gets him the most attention- be it positive or negative.

Last edited 1 month ago by Bill C
Mark Crothers
1 month ago
Reply to  Bill C

I’d push back on calling it just a personal finance website. It’s really a comprehensive retirement resource—a holistic mishmash of everything retirement. Yes, it covers portfolio management, Social Security strategies, and withdrawal tactics, but equally the lived experience of retirement itself. The philosophical questions, the physical realities, the emotional journey, the day-to-day texture of this life stage, it’s all there. It’s more than a typical finance-focused site; it’s the full spectrum of retirement life in one place.

Mark Crothers
1 month ago
Reply to  Mark Crothers

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Last edited 1 month ago by Mark Crothers
Cecilia Beverly
1 month ago
Reply to  Mark Crothers

From the About section: Managing money may be simple, but it isn’t easy. Most of us struggle to save diligently, invest intelligently and figure out what will make us happy. HumbleDollar aims to help readers make rational financial decisions, especially when it comes to retirement. But we’re also acutely aware of the human side of money.

This used to be a personal finance website. Yes, of course retirement is a component of that, but I’m not sure where the idea that Humble Dollar was created to be a “holistic mishmash of everything retirement” came from.

Mark Crothers
1 month ago

“But we’re also acutely aware of the human side of money” – doesn’t this support my point? Dan Smith recently posted something similar, which suggests this theme resonates with others too.

I think we all have different perspectives on what fits within HD’s ethos, and that’s natural. I really value your articles and comments, they’re excellent and insightful. Perhaps when content doesn’t resonate with you, you could simply focus your energy on the pieces you do enjoy? Your voice and experience are valuable to the community, so I hope you’ll continue sharing them

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Nick Politakis
1 month ago
Reply to  Bill C

We need some levity in our lives, especially when it’s a website dealing with such serious topics as investing, healthcare and retirement. I think certain people take things too seriously even after Mr. Quinn admits he is not entirely serious.

Nick Politakis
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Can’t AI fix this problem?

Jack Hannam
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

When I see how much has been written, so far, about AI my eyes start to glaze over. I’m waiting for the development of AW, or “Artificial Wisdom”. Now that would be something to learn more about!

Mark Crothers
2 months ago
Reply to  Jack Hannam

As I’ve mentioned before: We really needed to solve natural stupidity before we moved on to artificial intelligence 😉

David
2 months ago

This article seems out of place on a financial website and disrespectful to Jonathan, who specifically requested Dick stop posting these types of rants. No one comes here to read this blather.

Nick Politakis
2 months ago
Reply to  David

As Dick stated many times in the comments below, it’s humor and we need a dose of that occasionally. I’m sure Jonathan would have agreed.

parkslope
2 months ago
Reply to  Nick Politakis

Jonathan had long ago asked Quinn to refrain from making posts that criticized behavior he considers irresponsible. If RDQ hadn’t done it countless times then Jonathan might have considered a single instance like this humorous.

parkslope
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

You have made numerous valuable contributions to HD, especially those that are based on your knowledge of employee benefits.

However, I also have no doubt that you have written more articles and forum threads criticizing the behavior of other people who you think are acting irresponsibly than all of the other HD contributors put together. Jonathan repeatedly asked you to stop your rants but you chose to ignore him.

Jonathan made it clear that he wanted HD to be a site with a positive tone aimed at helping others with financial matters. Do you really think he wanted HD to rely on rants about the irresponsible behavior to remain viable?

Bill C
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Dick, you are splitting hairs on what is considered a rant. If you have to state in the subject line it’s not one, it most likely is, and smells like one to me. I can’t believe a personal finance site is allowing subjects like this to be posted, and you are continuing this behavior like a belligerent young boy. I feel it’s in bad form of Jonathan’s legacy. I also find your continuing rants about folks that claim SS after FRA to be in poor taste, especially after Jonathan had asked you to refrain from such commentary.

Mark Crothers
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

To paraphrase: You can’t please all of the people all of the time, but you can sure p**s off the ones you don’t please most of the time. Unfortunately, negative opinions are often more potent and vocal than positive ones.

Last edited 2 months ago by Mark Crothers
robbie dendulk
2 months ago

LOVE THIS POST!

But then I think I have a sense of humor.
So many don’t and are looking very hard for things to “take offense at”.

Jim Heekin
2 months ago

As my old Polish grandmother used to say, “It will only bother you if you let it bother you!”

Patrick Brennan
2 months ago

For those of you, like me, who sympathize with Mr. Quinn’s sentiments on shopping carts, may I suggest Cart Narcs? https://cartnarcs.com/index.html

H S
2 months ago

You commented to bbbobins to not base assumptions on those who write or comment. Your third paragraph take on this post is nothing more than an assumption, or theory in your words.

Mark Eckman
2 months ago
Reply to  H S

Dude – chill, enjoy the satire

Mark Crothers
2 months ago

My goodness, everyone, can we not just be finished with Cartgate and move on?

Nick Politakis
2 months ago
Reply to  Mark Crothers

It’s about time but people are so into it!

bbbobbins
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

You can’t even do contrition without an unjustified attack on those offering a different perspective.

Perhaps the quality of your threads would be improved if you

a) considered whether the right platform was here rather or your personal blog;

b) tried to self censor your more judgmental comments on others; and

c) don’t try to dress things up as a joke when called out,

I don’t want to get too cod-psychology on you but it’s clear you as a couple are going through some stuff so I’m inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt. But meet members halfway and maybe offer some mea culpa.

bbbobbins
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

I doubt anyone reading HD is one of your inconsiderate cart abandoners. Nor are they in your financially irresponsible cohort so what mission have you exactly accomplished?

H S
2 months ago

Humble Dollar goal and I quote in part. Aims to help readers make rational financial decisions especially when it comes to retirement. Certainly not every post needs to to be deep or thought provoking, but in my humble opinion opinion this post would have been better served on X or other social sites. It doesn’t fit here. I don’t come to this site to read about grocery carts.If you post a lot sometimes you mss no matter the intent.

deandwigz
2 months ago

Rather than attack, why not use any post as a chance to create or direct a positive conversation about one of the points made? I think it’s a better focus of energy and intellect. Like after I park I always look around for anyone who might appreciate me grabbing their cart as they finish loading and return it to the store. I want folks like Dick as part of my circle. He makes you think and question things you see and hear every day that make you shake your head or smile.  

DAN SMITH
2 months ago

The written word is tricky compared to the spoken one. Take comedians, for example, if you were reading, as opposed to hearing a set, you may come away thinking that the comedian was total and absolute butthole.
Occasionally I am a sinner, still, I try to avoid being misinterpreted by re-reading and editing my messages multiple times before hitting the post or send button. 
Dick, I love ya, I get ya, but maybe consider the unintended tones that your posts might sound like in someone else’s ear. 

As for the shopping cart thing; the culprit could just as well have been an arrogant millionaire, or an individual with a very challenging physical handicap.

Mark Crothers
2 months ago

I’m nearly afraid to make this observation, but I find it interesting, and it’s just how my mind works:

The original article and its negative reactions offer a fascinating case study in how poor framing destroys a valid message.

The core point is simple and undeniable: abandoning shopping carts, especially in handicap spaces, is irresponsible behavior and should be called out.

Yet that message has been completely lost in the noise created by the article’s tone. That tone nearly guaranteed people would focus on the sharpness rather than the legitimate concern. Lead with negativity, and people stop listening. The message drowns in its own delivery. Strip away the prose style, and most would agree with the underlying point. But wrapped in the framing used, even a reasonable observation becomes pure noise.

That being said, RDQ was the main voice that drew me to Humble Dollar in the first place.

Last edited 2 months ago by Mark Crothers
David Lancaster
2 months ago
Reply to  Mark Crothers

Yet that message has been completely lost in the noise created by the article’s tone.”

Years ago I started a taxpayer’s association due to continuing significant increases in property taxes. When I started I made it clear that our tone should be one of concerned not angry taxpayers. I knew from listening to some at town meeting that the people that spoke with an angry tone would drown out their message. My goal was to have the association educate and take positions on subjects and then let the townspeople vote according to their own informed decision.

Marilyn Lavin
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

HD is supposed to be about personal finance. How is frustration with abandoned shopping carts even relevant?

Cecilia Beverly
2 months ago

Does anyone really think I have a theory relating shopping carts to financial behaviors?

You’ve posted your views on shopping carts and your assumptions about the financial habits of those who don’t return them to the corrals 3 or 4 times in the past few years. So yes, I’d say that it is clear that you do, in fact, have a such a theory.

Oh my, a joke, exaggeration, hyperbole, satire…seems not recognized in the HD community all that much.

And then the “just joking” defense in response to those who called out your post as being in poor taste and inappropriate for HD. There’s actually a term for this. It’s a play on Schrödinger’s Cat and describes a person who makes offensive statements, then decides whether they were joking based on the reaction of people around them.

As parkslope pointed out, Jonathan asked you multiple times to stop posting rants here. And as Kathy pointed out, you have your own blog for posting this kind of content. Enough already.

Marilyn Lavin
2 months ago

Extremely well stated.

Harry O'Neil
2 months ago

If you shop at ALDI, they have a system where you have to insert a quarter into the handle of the shopping cart to free it from the other carts. And it works. Everyone returns the carts to the staging areas to get their quarter back. I have never seen a cart loose in their parking lot.

Simple solution. Plus, they probably do not lose a lot of carts either.

James McGlynn CFA RICP®

This rant reminds me of this video….”It’s Getting Real in the Whole Foods Parking Lot”
Whole Foods Parking Lot – Music Video [HD]

Last edited 2 months ago by James McGlynn CFA RICP®
mytimetotravel
2 months ago

So this was supposed to be a joke? Why did you think it was funny? Why did you post it on HD instead of your own blog? Instead of repeatedly claiming you were joking, how about spending your time considering why you thought it was appropriate to post it here. Maybe the time you spend reading garbage on other social media sites has distorted your view of what belongs here.

David Lancaster
2 months ago

OOPS, see below

Last edited 2 months ago by David Lancaster
DrLefty
2 months ago

I understand the annoyance with regard to the shopping carts. However, not everyone who is living paycheck to paycheck, can’t save, has credit card debt, and so forth is “lazy, irresponsible, and inconsiderate.” There are many reasons why a person or family may be struggling financially, from job loss to health crises to a house fire to a special needs child. When I was in grad school and on bedrest due to complications during my first pregnancy, I can assure you that we were living in a very financially precarious state for a few months. I’m thankful that our families and church and classmates helped us out during that period. You don’t know what everyone’s story is.

Nick Politakis
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

I may not share your view of the world but I love your posts!

Last edited 2 months ago by Nick Politakis
DAN SMITH
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

I get it Dick.

mytimetotravel
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Surely you are old enough to have learned that jokes and satire, and especially sarcasm, do not go over well on the web. It is not just HD. Actually, sarcasm doesn’t seem to go over well in person in the US.

What on earth was the point of this post? Please don’t post just for the sake of posting.

Winston Smith
2 months ago
Reply to  mytimetotravel

You are correct.

Most of the people I’ve encountered are seriously lacking in a “sense of humor”.

William Housley
2 months ago

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Last edited 2 months ago by William Housley
Greg Tomamichel
2 months ago

Dick, this is a rant. Pure and simple.

Please read the room – the HD community is looking for interesting articles on finance, retirement and human nature.

Not grumbles about shopping carts and social media.

David Lancaster
2 months ago

Wow, what a load of assumptions!

Dick I have supported you several times when you have received, in my opinion, unwarranted downvotes, but in no way can I support this vitriolic writing. Even if you want to call this post hyperbole, or anything else, what it is is downright hurtful.
👎

PLEASE be more thoughtful in your posts.

David Lancaster
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

This sentence : “My theory is these lazy, inconsiderate dolts are the same people who live paycheck to paycheck, carry credit card balances, fail to save for their future and who will not be helped by a budget.”

Maybe the person left work late and have to beat the bus to their children’s’ house because they have elementary age children.Or maybe the wind blew the cart into parking space.They may not be retired and have the luxury of a leisurely trip to the store.

Please take a moment to look at the many posts below where other HD contributors also believe your comments are serious and as a result have posted down votes and reflect on what they are trying to say to you.

Last edited 2 months ago by David Lancaster
mytimetotravel
2 months ago

If this were an actual lamentation, instead of yet-another-Quinn-rant, it would express sympathy for people working two or three jobs to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table, who are running late to pick up the kids from day care. Or, worse, have the kids in tow.

It appears that getting worked up over nothing much is what keeps Mr. Quinn going. Otherwise he would find something useful to write, and he would stop hanging out on sites that simply annoy him.

bbbobbins
2 months ago

You choose to live in Joyzzay you have to accept the consequences!

Gary Klotz
2 months ago

Sorry, Mr. Quinn.

It is a rant.

The “theory” comes across as prejudice in disguise.

Gary Klotz
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Who?

Fair question.

Answer: the people identified in the third paragraph of your post, ones who lack your middle class values and higher socioeconomic status.

If you intended to be using hyperbole, you may have been, based on the harsh comments, who understood your use of hyperbole.

bbbobbins
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

It’s all very well trying to describe it as hyperbole etc but when every one of your threads starts with some punching down on some class or other of people it doesn’t look like it.

We get it – very few can ever aspire to be such a paragon of prudence and comfortable retirement as yourself. But many at least make the effort to understand we are not all the same and we all have our unique flaws.

August West
2 months ago

Because today’s slobs have no respect for others and our American values went down the toilet over the past few decades.

Last edited 2 months ago by August West
parkslope
2 months ago

One of your rants by any other name is still a rant. Jonathan practically begged you to refrain from making posts like this multiple times up to shortly before he passed. Given you numerous posts, I’m sure he was concerned that HD might devolve into a site dominated by your holier than thou threads such as this one.

Kristine Hayes
2 months ago

My theory is these lazy, inconsiderate dolts…”

Wow. You just cemented my opinion that you are one of the rudest, most opinionated people I’ve ever had the displeasure of reading.

Living in a location where MANY people have handicapped placards and license plates, I can assure you many handicapped people APPRECIATE the carts that are left in the handicap spots. Shopping carts are frequently used as a walking assistance device (think pseudo-walkers). I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve seen someone get out of a vehicle and hold onto the car door as they reach to grab the nearest cart.

Kristine Hayes
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Wow. You sure took my comment wrong. It was just a joke, exaggeration, hyperbole, satire.

Cecilia Beverly
2 months ago
Reply to  Kristine Hayes

Ha. I guess people just can’t take a joke anymore.

Kristine Hayes
2 months ago

Clearly. It was obvious my comment was meant to be a joke. Everyone should have known I was exaggerating. Seriously, why would anyone take it literally? Just a little tongue-in-cheek wordplay.

Marilyn Lavin
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

I have to agree with Kristine— it’s way over the top to characterize all those who leave shopping carts in handicap places as you did.

Marilyn Lavin
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Pretty much—isn’t that to he point of written communication?

Marilyn Lavin
2 months ago

I agree about the shopping carts in most parking places, but the ones in the handicap slots may be there because the users of those locations may not be able to take them to the proper return point. When I see the physical condition of many users of those slots, I’m totally willing to give them a pass.

Marilyn Lavin
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

As you have CHOSEN to ignore, several people including me have indicated why a shopping cart may be in the handicap space— a disabled shopper may not have been physically able to return it. You are able to take your wife to the store, but suppose she had to get there by herself? How would she get back to the car after putting the cart away?? You seem to be upset because a cart is blocking your Mercedes. Why don’t you just get out and move the cart? You apparently are in reasonably good condition, so this is an option. You’re being very unfair to those who can’t do it, and must leave the carts.

Last edited 2 months ago by Marilyn Lavin
August West
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

I wonder if the commentators who are defending those who leave shopping carts all over the parking lot are also ones who do not return carts to the corral.

Denise Smith
2 months ago

A little bit curmudgeonly are we?
I cannot disagree more. Thoughtlessness crosses all economic tiers.

Last edited 2 months ago by Denise Smith
Denise Smith
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Direct quote from your ‘lamentation’:
My theory is these lazy, inconsiderate dolts are the same people who live paycheck to paycheck, carry credit card balances, fail to save for their future and who will not be helped by a budget. 

mytimetotravel
2 months ago

Maybe it depends on where you live and/or where you shop. I rarely see carts in parking spaces. In fact, I can’t remember the last time. Left off the road against a wall or a streetlight yes, but not often in parking spaces and if one is there it’s on the line between two spaces, not in the middle. The places I shop seem to have plenty of shopping cart “corrals”.

From what I remember from shopping with my sister in England, you have to deposit a coin to get a cart. You get the coin back when you return the cart.

Mark Crothers
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Most UK supermarkets do this; it still doesn’t stop people leaving them in the lot. I’ve been known to wheel a few back to the cart park and pocket a couple of pound coins for my effort…free money is a wonderful thing 😁

Marilyn Lavin
2 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Aldi here does use it—and has for years.

Olin
2 months ago

It isn’t just the handicap parking slots, it’s everywhere. Sometimes when returning to your parked vehicle there is a shopping cart right next to your vehicle. It can be upsetting, but I just take the cart and place it in the cart corral.

When I go on my walks, I take a plastic bag and pick up trash. The day after halloween was extra work.

Last edited 2 months ago by Olin
Humble Reader
2 months ago
Reply to  Olin

I also take a plastic bag and pick up an average of about 6 beer cans per day, every day, on my 2 to 3 mile walk in my rural neighborhood. My states’ 10-cent beverage container deposit law is useless. A $1 deposit would be a start. I have been fantasizing about installing dirt-bag cameras along the road to catch the perps… Sorry this is starting to sound like a rant, I will stop now.

Carl C Trovall
2 months ago

Perhaps the lazy dolts are the wealthiest who have made good financial decisions. I have read that they evade taxes more and donate less percentage of their wealth to charity. Their wealth has bought them the privilege of not having to roll that cart back to its proper home. Let the grocery store worker clean up after me – isn’t it their job?

Mark Crothers
2 months ago

Shopping carts are an evil invention. They make you buy to much at the grocery store 😉

mytimetotravel
2 months ago
Reply to  Mark Crothers

Of course, once upon a time, you shopped several times a week and the person behind the counter found what you wanted, wrapped it, and handed it to you. You might have taken your own small shopping cart with you. Milk showed up on the doorstep, and the fish man’s van made the rounds on Friday.

Nick Politakis
2 months ago
Reply to  Mark Crothers

In Greece the shopping carts are tiny and so are the aisles.

Mark Crothers
2 months ago
Reply to  Nick Politakis

I haven’t been to Greece for five or six years, but I always loved the small grocery shops and markets with their super-fresh, mismatched-sized vegetables bursting with flavour—so much better than the uniform offerings in UK supermarkets.

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