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Four Score Wisdom

Richard Quinn

I WAS BORN ON THIS day in 1943. Today, I must acknowledge being old. I remember, years ago, scanning the obituaries and checking the age at death. Seventy-five seemed like a good run. Not anymore it doesn’t.

At age 40, I gave up the occasional pipe and vowed, if I made it to 80, I’d take it up again. That’s not going to happen. Not smoking may be a factor in getting this far. Besides, a good pipe and tobacco are too darn expensive.

I read articles on HumbleDollar about taking care of aging parents and all that goes with it. Now, I relate to the parent part, not the caregiver. My parents are long gone. Both died at home in their sleep.

I recently gave my children an updated draft of our final instructions to review. They were shocked. “Why did you prepare this?” they asked. It hasn’t dawned on them that their parents are super-seniors, with a combined 164 years of experience and 55 shared years of marriage.

They’re the ones who could be writing an article about aging parents. I’ve told them, “You may have things to worry about, taking care of your mom and me, but at least it won’t be about money.” That financial security has been a goal of mine since I joined AARP—at age 50, by the way.

Someone recently told me I’m too out of touch and that I should socialize more with 20- and 30-year-olds. That ain’t going to happen. But I do read what many have to say on social media. I also observe them in the local Starbucks, even engaging in conversation occasionally. It can be quite enlightening, amusing and sometimes sad when they talk about having little opportunity.

Out of touch? I have experience. That must count for something.

I watch retirement planning videos on YouTube. I’m shocked when the advisor, who’s explaining all the ins and outs using 30-year projections, looks like he’s barely 30 himself.

I don’t care how sophisticated his spreadsheet is, he hasn’t had time to weather a market crash or severe recession, worry that his clients might be drafted for two years, wait in line for two hours for five gallons of gasoline, or see 10% mortgage rates—though he may yet get the chance.

I’ll admit I don’t understand carrying credit card debt, failing to always save something, or living beyond your means at any income level. And I sure don’t understand covering your body with tattoos and piercings from head to toe.

Paying $1,000 or more to stand and listen to a singer, whom you’re helping to make a billionaire, just befuddles me. I also don’t understand parents spending thousands of dollars a year so their children can play multiple sports and join travel teams. The folks who do understand these things can rightly claim I’m out of touch.

You may look at me and see an old man, but I’m still 18 inside. It seems only yesterday I was a rally car driver, in the Army, getting married, and praying while waiting for our first child to be born.

There are signs of aging, though. I’ve given up trying for a golf score equal to my age. Now, I aim for my blood pressure to match my age.

 I don’t like being treated as old, or a senior citizen, or elderly—unless, of course, it means a discount, getting to the head of the line or others giving up their seat.

How did I get where I am? Why am I financially secure? Good fortune and a lack of misfortune are first and foremost. A supportive and aligned partner helped a great deal. And there are some practical things as well.

I saved something—even a few dollars—every payday since I was 18. Never lived above our one-income means. Never paid credit card interest. Invested mostly in index mutual funds, except for employer stock bought at a discount. And I worked for nearly 50 years until age 67.

I guess I am out of touch. I’ve morphed into an old curmudgeon, and I’m enjoying every minute of it.

Richard Quinn blogs at QuinnsCommentary.net. Before retiring in 2010, Dick was a compensation and benefits executive. Follow him on Twitter @QuinnsComments and check out his earlier articles.

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Kurt Yokum
9 months ago

Dick, you were spraying barbs but got only one taker. Methinks you are getting old. Happy birthday. Time to start planning for your 3 billion seconds birthday. Then you’ll be really old.

Terry the Flyboy
9 months ago

Happy birthday, Dick. I NEVER miss your columns…. we are truly kindred spirits. It’s wonderfully reassuring to read – almost weekly – that there are other geezers who share my “out of touch” viewpoints on a wide range of topics.

R Quinn
9 months ago

Yup, we have to stick together 👌🏼

SCao
9 months ago

Happy birthday, Mr. Quinn.

Donny Hrubes
10 months ago

Congratulations Sir Richard. I say you dun gud and have plenty to be happy about.
The big thing we have is our life wisdom. Folks that have made it to “super-senior” status and are happy and free simply must be wise.

A mission for us could possibly be to share it when and where we can. The young should be shown.
Keep on writing Richard!

R Quinn
9 months ago
Reply to  Donny Hrubes

Thank you

evan rayers
10 months ago

You always write great pieces Dick.
I do not follow my birthdays, a simple over 65 fits.
You’re doing exceptionally well in my estimation.

I too am looking forward to your 9th decade of contributations of experience, advice and unfettered input.

My attitude is everyone’s different, you only go around once. The 1st amendment is important.
Everyone both has an opinion and is expected to be civil to everyone else.

R Quinn
9 months ago
Reply to  evan rayers

I’m looking forward to the 9th decade. too.

Tim Jensen
10 months ago

Great article. I agree with everything you wrote and you life path is very similar to mine. I guess that makes me a curmudgeon too.

R Quinn
9 months ago
Reply to  Tim Jensen

And that’s not a bad thing😁

David Lancaster
10 months ago

Yeah, but you’re our curmudgeon. HBD.

BTW, 10 percent mortgage? Try 13.5 percent!

DrLefty
10 months ago

Happy Birthday! I like Baby Ruth bars, too.

I’m with you on a lot of what you said, especially the tattoos. I explained to my daughters that someday they’ll be as old as I am, and then how will those tattoos look?! (Didn’t stop them.)

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Donny Hrubes
10 months ago
Reply to  DrLefty

AND the cost to install the ‘tats’ !! ByeBye $

dsurr
10 months ago

Congratulations! I agree with your view of today’s youth. I think it is more indicative of the prosperity which exists in our country. Basic necessities are taken care of and so as humans we create new problems to solve. It seems struggle is part of our DNA even if we have to manufacture it.

Paul LaVanway
10 months ago

Congratulations on your 80th trip around the sun! And remember…..you’re not old, you’re “aged to perfection!”

Mark Grady
10 months ago

Richard,
Happy 80th Birthday, wishing you many more. I read HD daily and always enjoy your articles and your often tongue and cheek outlook on the financial impact of the many events we experience in our life. You have a very pragmatic outlook that is hard to disagree with and your responses usually put a smile on my face. Thank you for the gift of your past contributions and I hope we continue to hear from you in the future.

R Quinn
10 months ago
Reply to  Mark Grady

Very much appreciated comment.

parkslope
10 months ago

Happy birthday, Dick. Although we disagree about many things I do enjoy your articles.

R Quinn
10 months ago
Reply to  parkslope

Thank you

parkslope
9 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

P.S. I think a Humble Dollar tattoo would look great on you😀

Nick Politakis
10 months ago

only the wise are out of touch! Happy birthday

Marjorie Kondrack
10 months ago

I might not say it every day, but since today is your birthday and it’s a special day, I hope it’s incredible as you are.Happy birthday Dick.

R Quinn
10 months ago

Thank you, very nice of you.

Philip Karp
10 months ago

Hey o’ man stubborn Mr. Quinn. It wasn’t someone, it was me who suggested you enlarge your circle of friends to include different age groups. To criticize 20 y/os and 30 y/os for their money management behavior based upon your experience some 50 years ago is just plain ill suited. Economic and job stability times have changed and peer pressures are different so as to conform and adapt. Spending money on body tattoos and expensive Starbucks coffee and employers-employees loyalty ..etc. is illogical to you but the times have changed and will continue to change. Get with the program and be helpful to younger folks. I’m 76 y/o and still working and still associate with younger folks.

Philip Karp
10 months ago
Reply to  Philip Karp

Wow: so far three negatives to my post and no thumbs up. Did people object to the tone in my post or the message in my post? I know Humble Dollar tends to be read by older folks and probably by fewer younger people if any?
My message was: don’t be quick to criticize younger people’s behavior based upon your “dated” experience. Try to understand the pressures they are under in current times”.

R Quinn
10 months ago
Reply to  Philip Karp

If I look back over what I remember during my life I can recall many national and world events that created pressures at least equal to what we have today and likely more so. Younger people have it pretty good – pressures, obstacles? Sure, as does every generation, but also plenty of opportunities, the benefit of technology and generally a higher standard of living spent on things we never dreamed of.

R Quinn
10 months ago
Reply to  Philip Karp

Things are different in each generation, the hope is that things get better or at least not worse. I’m still hoping.

Priorities, at least when it comes to spending, do not seem aligned with stated goals, like retiring early. I am more than willing to help someone who needs it, but there should be some responsibility shown as well – at least I think so.

I was recently in a restaurant waiting for a table as were several others including two elderly women and two young girls seated. Among those of us standing was a very pregnant women. One of the older women said to one one of the girls, “do you think you could let her (pregnant women) have your seat?” The girls response was, “why, it’s not my fault she is pregnant.” Hopefully not typical, but it is annoying.

Perhaps my generation did it as well, but there is a lot of complaining these days about things – gas prices, interest rates, and more that we coped with.

Oh well, once a dinosaur, always until extinction.

Andrew Forsythe
10 months ago

Happy Birthday, Dick, and many happy returns!

Dan Smith
10 months ago

Jeez you really are a grumpy old man. The worst thing is I agree with every word you wrote. Happy birthday Richard!

R Quinn
10 months ago
Reply to  Dan Smith

It’s nice to know there is more than one of us.

Bill Hallier
10 months ago

Thank you Mr Quinn for your article and sharing your personel experiences.
I give thanks every day for living in the golden age of the world and in this “Free?” country that provides opportunities for any one willing to work hard, save and plan for your future assuming the best and accepting the worst. (History indicates that approach to life has not always been available)
As you pointed out eight plus decades of living the good and trying times is a growing and maturing experience designed to bring use to where we are today and to be accepting and thankful for the many blessing of life it self.
Happy birthday and many more.

R Quinn
10 months ago
Reply to  Bill Hallier

Thank you

Mike Gaynes
10 months ago

I’ve cherished the same dream of taking up a pipe at 70. But it won’t happen… because my wife has informed me that I would be divorced at 71.

I’ll just settle for stopping in at the tobacco shop and enjoying the rich aromas while she’s shopping elsewhere in the mall.

R Quinn
10 months ago
Reply to  Mike Gaynes

Sounds like a plan.

Mike Wyant
10 months ago

My father in law smoked a cigar daily until he died at 93. Probably contributed to his early demise.😉 I loved him dearly but the phrase, ” he didn’t get heart attacks he gave them” fit him to a T. Happy 80th birthday Dick Getting old is not for the faint of heart!

R Quinn
10 months ago
Reply to  Mike Wyant

I just keep denying that it is happening even while enjoying it.

Annabelle Clinger
10 months ago

Happy Birthday to one of my favorites! I made a donation to HD in your honor today 🙂

R Quinn
10 months ago

Very kind. Than you.

Jonathan Clements
Admin
10 months ago

Thank you for your generosity!

Jeff Bond
10 months ago

Happy Birthday! I always enjoy your posts.

polamalu2009
10 months ago

Happy birthday Richard. You share the day with my dear wife. I don’t believe in horoscopes but you are both wonderful people.

Jack Hannam
10 months ago

I think most of us feel as though we are the same person inside, no matter how old we get. I’m with you on the topic of overpriced concert tickets. I prefer hearing less famous musicians playing in smaller venues with better acoustics. I share your belief that choosing the right spouse or partner, combined with good luck and planning are key. Happy 80th birthday. I look forward to your future posts as you begin your ninetieth decade!

R Quinn
10 months ago
Reply to  Jack Hannam

Ninetieth decade. Wow, i never thought of it that way, yikes

Jack Hannam
10 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Oops! I meant 9th decade!

Linda Grady
10 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Methuselah.

Randy Dobkin
10 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Happy 890th!

Nuke Ken
10 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

I hope he meant ninth decade, unless your middle name is Methuselah.

mytimetotravel
10 months ago

Happy birthday! Sounds like creative kids.

M Plate
10 months ago

Happy Birthday!
In the interest of seeing many more Birthdays, I’d suggest you not eat all 80 candy bars.

R Quinn
10 months ago
Reply to  M Plate

Good point. Most are going in the freezer.

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Ormode
10 months ago

YouTube? Dave Zoller, Streamline Financial? Erin Talks Money? They’re both pretty good, but definitely on the young side. If you want someone more mature, The Money Guy Show and Rob Berger are pretty good.

Linda Grady
10 months ago

Happy Birthday, Dick! You definitely keep busy with your HD articles and comments. I’m so glad that I get to enjoy them all, and look forward to many more. Re: praying for the safe arrival of your first child, I’m betting that you didn’t know the gender until the blessed event concluded, right? Nowadays, people can’t imagine how we planned for baby’s arrival without sonograms! Enjoy your birthday month while munching on popcorn 😋😉

R Quinn
10 months ago
Reply to  Linda Grady

You are so right. No idea of the gender and I was in a waiting room three floors away😃

Rick Connor
10 months ago

Happy Birthday Dick! You’ve seen, and experienced, quite a lot in your eighty years. We appreciate you sharing some of that with us. Enjoy.

R Quinn
10 months ago
Reply to  Rick Connor

I just discovered that when I was born there were no credit cards or ATMs. How did people survive?

R Quinn
10 months ago

My family had a party for me yesterday. My creative children gave me 80 lottery tickets- I won $54, 80 golf balls, 80 bags of microwave popcorn and 80 bars of BabyRuth candy – my favorite. Doesn’t take much to make this 80 year old happy.

Last edited 10 months ago by R Quinn
Edmund Marsh
10 months ago

Happy Birthday. The Bible says living 80 years is due to strength, and you seem to be going strong. My mother’s goal was 85, but apparently she’s also strong, and has overshot it by nine years and counting. She is growing sweeter, though. Can we expect the same from you?

R Quinn
10 months ago
Reply to  Edmund Marsh

Umm, sweeter? Perhaps a word I have not heard linked to me, but why not give it a go?

Nuke Ken
10 months ago

Happy birthday, Dick. Did you conspire with Jonathan to have your article published on the actual day, or is my greeting belated? In any case, thanks for another good read. Look forward to reading your piece when you turn 90.

R Quinn
10 months ago
Reply to  Nuke Ken

Conspired? indeed I did.

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