WHEN I WAS BORN 80-plus years ago in Madathumpady, it was one of the remotest villages in India. The country was ruled by the British and the freedom struggle was underway, led by Mahatma Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru.
My parents hadn’t attended school because there were no schools in the village when they grew up. But they weren’t illiterate. Both learned to read and write. In fact, my mother taught me how to read and write before I attended school. I learned the alphabet by writing with my index finger on sand spread on the floor.
At the time, in India, you weren’t considered educated if you didn’t know English—which my parents didn’t. Still, my father knew the basics of mathematics, like addition, multiplication and division. When I was in high school, I taught him decimals, which he was thrilled to learn.
I was my parents’ sixth and youngest child. My father was in his 50s when I was born. Most schools at the time were established by India’s state governments. But my village had no government schools. A private school was started under the leadership of my cousin, who was about 30 years older than me. He was a college graduate. That’s the school where my siblings and I studied. It was a private school where students were charged a monthly fee of three rupees, equal to about four U.S. cents at current exchange rates. My father couldn’t afford even that amount and had to borrow.
The university matriculation examination was conducted by the state government. Even though I was in a remote village school, I ranked first in the state among approximately 250,000 students, for which I was awarded a scholarship to attend college. The scholarship was a meager 50 rupees (61 cents) per month. While I was a student in the college of engineering, my scholarship increased to 100 rupees ($1.22) per month. Without the scholarship, I couldn’t have afforded college.
After getting a bachelor’s degree in engineering, I applied for admission to the Indian Institute of Technology in Bombay, one of India’s premier engineering institutions, where I earned a master’s degree. I received a scholarship of 400 rupees ($5) per month from the Government of India. In return for the scholarship, I was obligated to teach at an engineering school for a minimum of three years.
My teaching career started in 1966 and I taught at another top school, the Indian Institute of Technology in Chennai. When my three years were up, I was interested in pursuing further studies. I applied for admission to two schools, Lehigh University in the U.S. and the University of Swansea in Britain. I won admission and financial aid from both schools. I chose Lehigh and arrived in the U.S. in August 1969 with $8 in my pocket—the maximum amount of foreign exchange you were allowed to hold in India at the time.
After earning a PhD in applied mechanics, I went back to India. At the time, almost all marriages were arranged marriages. A PhD from a foreign country was in high demand in the marriage market. That’s how I got to marry Valsala, who was a medical doctor. After our wedding, I returned to the U.S. Valsala was able to follow three months later, after she got a visa. She joined the internship and residency program at a nearby hospital. It took her four years to complete both.
I was interested in pursuing an academic career, but academic jobs paid considerably less, so I decided to look for jobs in industry. Ultimately, I accepted a job in the research division of a New Jersey engineering company that built and designed power plants, oil refineries, pharmaceutical plants and other chemical facilities. The company had subsidiaries in Europe and collaborated with companies in the Far East. That gave me the opportunity to travel internationally.
After completing her internship and residency, Valsala set up a medical practice as an anesthesiologist at a community hospital. Luckily for her, the anesthesiologists in the hospital worked as a group to fulfill their departmental duties at the hospital, but each was independent in billing and collecting money from patients and insurance companies. This worked well for Valsala, allowing her to set up her own pension plan. By this point, we were both earning good money—with Valsala earning more.
My interest turned to investing. I had grown up poor—but now I had a chance to invest. That’s when I started reading The Wall Street Journal. I must have read just about every column that Jonathan Clements wrote as a personal finance columnist for the Journal and learned much from them. I read every investment book I could find, including those by Jonathan, Burton Malkiel, John Bogle, Charles Ellis, William Bernstein, Larry Swedroe, Jeremy Siegel and many others.
One of the books that influenced me the most was Bogle on Mutual Funds. The book has been revised many times and it’s now a thick volume. I was impressed by Jack Bogle’s idea of capturing the market’s overall growth at as little cost as possible, and it’s why I like total stock market index funds.
Still, early on, I bought many individual stocks. I purchased Enron and lost every penny. I bought WorldCom and lost money. But I also had some winners, including Berkshire Hathaway. I bought three A shares (symbol: BRK-A). Unfortunately, I sold two of them in 2005, when we bought a home in Florida. I didn’t want to take out a mortgage. I retired in 1998 at age 59. My wife continued to work part-time until 2008, when we moved fulltime to Florida.
Over the years, I’ve simplified our investment accounts. Now, we have only two, at Vanguard Group and Charles Schwab. In the Schwab account, we have just one investment, our remaining share of Berkshire Hathaway, which recently closed above $500,000. I plan to move our Berkshire holding to Vanguard and close the Schwab account. Other than the one Berkshire share, I invest only in index funds these days, both the mutual-fund and exchange-traded varieties.
A change in the law that took effect in 2010 allowed everybody, no matter what their income, to convert a traditional IRA to a Roth. But the conversion meant paying taxes today. I delayed, thinking older folks won’t live long enough to benefit. It took me a long time to realize that, even if Valsala and I wouldn’t benefit, our son, daughter-in-law and three grandchildren would.
In my 80s, I have two regrets. First, I didn’t write and publish anything worthwhile, even though I was always interested in writing. Second, I’ve contributed very little to charities. I hope to correct these two deficiencies during my remaining years.
I believe that luck plays an important role in life. How else could a penniless boy from India end up in the U.S. with an eight-figure net worth?
Thazhathu V. Narayanan—T.V. to his friends—has been retired for 25 years and now lives in Florida. His hobbies include reading books on investing, economics and politics, and listening to classical music—preferably Indian classical music.
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Thanks for sharing your story, and it is very inspiring. As a fellow immigrant, I feel very lukcy to live in America, which is a nation of immigrants. (Do not get me wrong, no nation is perfect and we can always make it better.)
Thank you Mr. Cao. I agree that no nation is perfect and there is room for improvement. But the US is the best nation in the world thanks to the constitution created by our founding fathers.
I salute your achievements and having an eight-figure net worth. I would venture to guess that having a physician spouse contributed to your financial well-being.
Your description of your college scholarship amounts needs to be challenged. I believe you are converting the Indian Rupee amounts you received in the 1960s to current exchange rates. You can look at it two ways:
1) the exchange rate in 1965 was 1 USD = 4.76 INR. If you received Rs. 50 that would have been equivalent to $10.50. Inflation adjusted that is $96.95 in today’s USD.
2) Inflation adjusted, Rs. 50 is Rs. 3258 in today’s Rupees. That is equivalent to $39.69 in today’s dollars.
Whichever way you look at it, your figure of 61cents per month over dramatizes the situation.
Thank you Severely Independent. I stated in the article that all the conversions are at the current exchange rate. That means there is no adjustment for inflation.
I am not able to reply individually as the reply link is missing. To Sriram Subramanyan: Thank you for the comments. It was difficult to come to the US in the sixties. Foreigners from Asia were allowed in the US for the first time in the sixties during the Kennedy administration. I came to the US in 1969 as I mentioned in the article with a student visa. I applied to become an immigrant in 1970 and the rest of the story has been told in the article.
To Stephen Chen: Thank you for the invitation to do a podcast. It is not realistic for me to do a podcast at my age. Furthermore even though I can write reasonably well doing a podcast is another story. I speak with a heavy Indian accent (even after fifty years in the US) which may be a problem for most American listeners. Looking at other people like Burton Malkiel, Jonathan Clements, William Bernstein, Larry Swedrow and others, who have done podcast, I feel I am not qualified to be in that group.
Great article Mr.Narayanan. I emigrated to the US from India in late 90’s for higher studies and have been here since then and am living the American dream. I can personally identify a lot with your story. However I should confess that your journey was a lot harder than mine. I would assume it would also have been a lot more challenging coming to US in 60’s given the socio-political environment of that time. Your autobiography would be very inspiring to read. I wish you good health, energy and longevity,
Hi T.V. – great story – glad you have started writing. I run a podcast for our planning site – please let me know if you’d like to share your story with our audience. Burton Malkiel was on recently and Jonathan was one of our most popular guests and has my email.
https://www.newretirement.com/retirement/topic/podcast/
Mr. Narayanan, I, too, have enjoyed your great story of how you got from poverty in India to economic success in the U.S.
This 2016 article from the Atlantic Monthly speaks to your point about the role that Luck has played in your life. Once you think about it, it’s clear that Luck plays a larger role in our lives’ outcomes than anything else.
“Why Luck Matters More Than You Might Think”
Best regards,
(($; -)}™
Gozo
Hi Gozo: I read the article on the link you provided and I agree with it. Luck and chance play an important in the outcome of your efforts. Just as nobody gets a chance to pick the parents, which family they are born into or which country they are born in, so is the case with talent, skill or dedication. Chance plays a very important role in every one of our endeavors.
Just FYI Gozo: The article is behind a paywall. Here is an old version from the Wayback Machine that worked for me. (Just putting it here in case someone else sees this.)
After reading the article, the author does make the distinction several times in the article that luck is just one factor.
“talented, hardworking, and lucky”
”Successful careers, of course, result from many factors, including hard work, talent, and chance. “
…etc…
It might be the 3-legged stool of success. (Hard work, talent, and luck.)
Likely more of one, will lead to less of a need for the others. Also, those that are super-successful likely have all three in abundance.
While your point is well-taken, it overlooks the role that luck plays in determining ability (talent) and motivation (work ethic). Ability clearly has a genetic component and is also strongly determined by the influence of one’s parents and the opportunities parents make available to their children. I think most of us would also agree that parents play a strong role in determining our work ethic.
[I just responded to this same comment, from Nate Allen, below. With thanks for getting us around the Atlantic‘s paywall.]
Regards,
(($; -)}™
Gozo
Thank you for your inspirational story! I don’t recall seeing this many Thumbs Up on HD before!
Nor I — I think this is a new “thumbs up” record.
Thank you Jonathan.
No one man more important to investors worldwide than Mr Bogle
I agree. I learned much from reading Bogle. I feel that he changed my life too.
What an inspirational story!
I wish I could give it more than 1 Thumbs Up!
Thank you Winston. I do not deserve much credit, I feel that I owe more to good fortune and luck.
While others may disagree, I appreciate and agree with your sense that you have experienced good fortune. While superior mental acuity and hard work are not random, they are also not evenly distributed or consistently rewarded. Marriage, no matter how it is arranged or negotiated, still involves the unknown and the unpredictable. Divine providence is of great value, yet many a poor but wise young man has died in poverty and obscurity. So I celebrate both your good fortune and your faithful performance. May you find ways yet to share it in whatever time remains. Thank you for sharing some of your story.
Thank you Steve.
Your article was so interesting and also, to your credit, it was very well written.
Thank you Marjorie. Jonathan deserves more credit for editing than I deserve for writing.
I’m sure you’re being modest, but I also think Jonathan is amazing in his very capable and efficient editing.
Good for YOU!
Luck? Well, I saw a documentary film entitled ‘Lives Well Lived’ and was composed of interviews with folks that you would be considered young. One was self named ‘Lucky Louie’ and he realized early on, the harder he worked, the luckier he was! I feel we make our lives what they are and you did good.
Thank you for sharing your worldly experience.
Thank you Donny. I feel that I have been more lucky than I deserve.
I am 70 and retired 5 years ago. Your reading list is similar to mine. It is never too late to give thoughtfully to charity. And, as you have proven by this article, it is also never too late to write something worthwhile! Excellent and inspiring story. I hope to read more from you in the future.
I agree with you and thank you Jack.
I find such stories of success amongst many of my friends who grew up in India and emigrated to the US. It is heartwarming to read about your contributions to the great American experiment. Your story is also also a counterpoint to the nativist impulses that are plaguing our country today. It is worth remembering.
Thank you for sharing.
Most of my American friends welcomed me whole-heartedly and encouraged me including my first boss Irwin Berman who sadly passed away. The US continues to be the most successful nation because of the positive attitude of the citizens.
I found your story very interesting. I am your age (80’s), and I find a strong correlation between your investments and mine. I came from a relatively low income family, worked to get an aerospace engineering degree, worked for NASA, and helped send astronauts to the Moon. I worked hard over the years, and I invested what I could in the stock market. I also invested in Vanguard Group and TD Ameritrade. My TD Ameritrade accounts are being taken over by Charles Schwab, and I am not happy about that. Can you explain your reasons for closing your Schwab account?
If you move your Schwab investments into Vanguard, you will reduce your SIPC insurance coverage on your investments.
Thank you Bill. The only reason for closing the Schwab account because I want to simplify my accounts and simplify my life. Closing the Vanguard account is unthinkable because I learned so much by reading Jack Bogle.
I completely agree with you. I studied John Bogle’s method of investing, and I have been invested with Vanguard for many years. I think Mr. Bogle had a huge effect on transforming the mutual fund business.
Very interesting story, and as an engineer myself I have great respect for your accomplishments. Also, to be ranked first out of 250,000 in anything is truly amazing. Doing so in an academic competition is even more noteworthy. Add in the circumstances under which you achieved this and it just boggles the mind. Best wishes to you as you pursue your next life chapter’s goals. With the publication of this worthwhile article, you are already making great progress.
Thank you Nuke. Having no extracurricular activities forced me to become a bookworm. That helped me not only in school, but in my investment activities also.
Wonderful life story, T.V., and definitely prime material for a book…or a movie! Congratulations to you and your wife on all you’ve accomplished.
Looking forward to your future contributions here.
Thanks for the comments Andrew. Your comments will be an inspiration for me to write and publish a book.
Sharing this amazing life story is, indeed, a great charity to us all. Thank you, T.V. I hope to see more of your writing here on Humble Dollar.
thank you Rich
Thank you for sharing your inspiring story.
from a fellow Keralite Indian-American.
Thank you Purple Rain. Fellow Keralite – that is interesdting.
Congratulations! That’s an impressive life achieved with a great deal of hard work, plus talent. I hope the two of you also had fun along the way.
Thank you. As I have said many times before one cannot choose talent any more than one can choose parents or family into which one is born.
Talent meets opportunity, plus great parents. That’s a success story. Glad you’re enjoying your retirement. It’s well deserved.
Thank you very much for the comment.
I like to thank everybody who commented on the article. I still have not learned how to thank individually on the website.
My goodness, that’s a serious success story. I feel pretty lazy and entitled in comparison, growing up in my middle class household with all the hidden (to me at the time) benefits. Is it harder to immigrate to the US now than it was when you did it?
Plenty of young people with IT training are still migrating to the US even now. I do not have numbers to compare. thank you for your comments.
Amazing story—you and your wife are inspiring! Thank you for sharing it.
Thank you Dr. Lefty.
inspiring article sir…I appreciate this so much! Best of Humble Dollar here folks!
You have so much to still give to the world and your charitable giving goal will be fun to fulfil in your next chapter. Thanks for sharing this.
Thank you.
TV, thanks for the inspiring story. I look forward to reading more of your perspectives on HD.
Thank you Rick. I want to write more, but I realize that my time may be running out.
Inspiring story.
Great story TV. You are truly an Indian/American success story.
I found this statement to be amazing: “Even though I was in a remote village school, I ranked first in the state among approximately 250,000 students, for which I was awarded a scholarship to attend college.”
Despite all the challenges you faced, you were able to do that. Your story is great material for that book you want to write.
Thank you, Jerry.
Wow, what a beautiful story!
Thank you Cassandra.
A bit of good fortune perhaps, but not luck. How indeed?
Dedicated parents, education, a lot of hard work, perseverance and you and your spouse working together over many years. That’s how you did it.
And I suspect you both overcame a fair amount of discrimination in those early years in the US as well.
Thank you Dick. I do not know the difference between good fortune and luck.
Luck is random. Good fortune we help along with our actions.
Interested to know how one helps along with their actions things like choosing your parents and where you are born and your genetics etc
What a silly question.
Let’s start by a willingness to learn to write from your mother, willingness to take advantage of even modest opportunities.
Where do you think that willingness comes from?
It is clear that you don’t like the idea that we are not personally responsible for many of the factors that contribute to our success in life. It is also clear that your response in no way rebutted George’s comment to the effect that being born to parents such as TV’s as well as being born with genetic factors associated with success is due to luck rather than your notion of good fortune.
Let me re-post, here, the link to the 2016 article from Atlantic Monthly, which speaks to how Luck is the key component in each person’s success.
Why Luck Matters More Than You Might Think
Not everyone in this side discussion will likely agree, but when one gives it enough thought, one sees how Luck covers all of the bases:
Regards,
(($; -)}™
Gozo
Just FYI Gozo: The article is behind a paywall. Here is an old version from the Wayback Machine that worked for me. (Just putting it here in case someone else sees this.)
Edit: After reading the article, the author does make the distinction several times in the article that luck is just one factor.
“talented, hardworking, and lucky”
”Successful careers, of course, result from many factors, including hard work, talent, and chance. “
…etc…
It might be the 3-legged stool of success. (Hard work, talent, and luck.)
Likely more of one, will lead to less of a need for the others. Also, those that are super-successful likely have all three in abundance.
Thanks for finding a readily accessible version. Thanks, also, for the refresher on Mr. Frank’s three-legged stool.
In my own analysis of those three legs, at the time, it struck me that only one of the three was absolutely necessary. That element of “luck” may only be true tautologically. But “hard work” the world over, more often than not does not do it. And “talented” also goes to waste, more often than not.
At the time, my take on the piece was that it was a reminder (A) not to take too-much credit for our own successes and (B) not to judge the world’s downtrodden so-harshly.
It often seems to be easy, for those of us who have made it in the world, to mistake (A), and use it to look down on (B): there, but for the grace of Good Fortune, go I.
Thanks, again.
Regards,
(($; -)}™
Gozo
“I’d rather be lucky than good.”
—Lefty Gomez
inspiring story.
I went to DeMatha High School in 9th grade. My History teacher, Morgan Wooten, who was also our basketball coach, used to say “Luck is where Preparation meets Opportunity”.
I would say your preparation met your opportunities every step of your long journey.
Impressive.
Thank you Scott. I still consider myself very lucky.
I found your story to be truly inspiring, T.V.! Your journey from a remote Indian village to an accomplished engineer and investor with an eight-figure net worth is an affirmation of the rewards that hard work, education, and perseverance can bring. Your keen intellect and dogged determination, coupled with the opportunities that arose, undoubtedly played significant roles in your success. Your humble beginnings and the educational sacrifices your parents made for you and your siblings are incredibly touching.
Your investment journey also illustrates the invaluable importance of financial literacy and the potential of strategic investing. Your experiences with both individual stocks and index funds offer important lessons for other investors.
Your reflections on regrets and future plans also lend a profound depth to your narrative. The willingness to address areas of personal improvement, even in your 80s, is a testament to your character. The desire to contribute more to charitable causes and publish your insights sends a powerful message about the significance of giving back to society and sharing one’s wisdom.
All the best with your writing endeavors, and your journey of philanthropy. Your life is indeed an incredible testament to the role of luck, but also a clear demonstration that diligence, curiosity, and a hunger for knowledge can open doors and create opportunities for success.
Thank you for sharing your journey with us. It is a powerful testament to the beauty of the human spirit, resilience, and the transformative power of education.
Dear Nate: When I replied the first time I don’t think it was an adequate reply to your thoughtful comments. I truly regret that I did not write and publish more. From the enthusiastic comments of most readers I understood how generous most Americans are. I believe that it is one of the reasons why the US is a great country. I am now very proud to be a citizen of the United States.
Thank you Nate. I am only worried that at my age I do not have too many years left.
Count on 20 years! You have much to offer the world.
I hope you have a valued legal and accounting advisor in FL as your impressive net worth will benefit from sound guidance.
You and your wife are the embodiment of the American Dream. Well done and continue to enjoy life!