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LIFE HAS A CURIOUS way of presenting us with unexpected opportunities for growth and learning. For me, one such moment occurred during an ordinary workday when I found myself trapped in an elevator with none other than Jack Bogle, the iconic figure in the world of finance and founder of Vanguard Group. Little did I know that this unforeseen predicament would lead to a profound exchange of ideas and invaluable investment lessons.

The day had started like any other, filled with the hustle and bustle of office life. After a productive morning, I stepped into the elevator, intending to make a quick descent to the lobby. However, fate had other plans as the elevator abruptly came to a halt between floors, leaving me stranded with a mix of confusion and mild panic.

As I attempted to summon help, I noticed a calm presence beside me—Jack Bogle. Despite the unexpected circumstances, he remained composed, a testament to his unflappable demeanor and seasoned wisdom. Seizing the opportunity, I struck up a conversation with him, eager to glean insights from his decades of experience in the financial industry.

Our dialogue quickly shifted from the mundane to the profound, as we delved into the core principles of investment philosophy. One of the first lessons Jack imparted was the importance of adopting a long-term perspective when it comes to investing. In a world plagued by short-termism and instant gratification, he emphasized the need to focus on the fundamentals and resist the temptation to chase fleeting trends.

“Time in the market beats timing the market,” he quipped, underscoring the futility of trying to predict short-term market movements. Instead, he advocated for a patient, disciplined approach that prioritizes consistency and prudence over impulsive decision-making.

Another key lesson I learned from Jack Bogle was the significance of embracing simplicity in investment strategy. His pioneering work in index investing revolutionized the industry by challenging the prevailing wisdom of active management. By advocating for low-cost, passively managed index funds, he demonstrated that complex investment strategies often yield inferior results compared to a straightforward, diversified approach.

“Keep it simple, keep it low-cost,” he advised, driving home the importance of minimizing fees and expenses, which can erode investment returns over time. This mantra resonated deeply with me, reaffirming the notion that successful investing need not be overly complicated or convoluted.

Moreover, our conversation shed light on the ethical dimension of investing, a topic close to Jack Bogle’s heart. Throughout his career, he championed the principles of stewardship and fiduciary duty, advocating for greater transparency and accountability in the financial industry.

“Always put the investor’s interests first,” he stressed, highlighting the importance of integrity and trust in fostering long-term relationships with clients. This emphasis on ethical conduct served as a poignant reminder that financial success should never come at the expense of ethical principles or moral values.

As we awaited rescue from our temporary confinement, I couldn’t help but marvel at the serendipity of the situation. What began as a mundane elevator ride had evolved into a transformative encounter that left an indelible mark on my approach to investing.

As the doors finally opened and we stepped out into the lobby, I felt a sense of gratitude for the unexpected opportunity to learn from one of the greatest minds in finance. From the importance of adopting a long-term perspective to the value of simplicity and ethics in investment strategy, the lessons I gleaned from Jack Bogle continue to shape my approach to wealth management and financial planning.

In conclusion, getting stuck in an elevator with Jack Bogle was more than just a chance encounter—it was a masterclass in investment philosophy and a reminder of the timeless principles that underpin successful wealth accumulation. As I reflect on that memorable experience, I am reminded of the profound impact that moments of serendipity can have on our lives, shaping us into wiser, more informed investors and individuals.

The above was created by ChatGPT based on this request: “Write an 800-word article about the time I got stuck in an elevator with Jack Bogle and the investment lessons I learned.” To read more about this experiment, check out Man vs. Machine.

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Cheryl Low
2 years ago

ChatGPT has given me an incorrect answer twice. This can be bad in financial decisions, so be sure to double-check.

Bo Simmons
2 years ago

Jonathan – I’m not really wild about the idea that these articles are 100% created by AI like Chat GPT. Like others, I can accept using Chat GPT for research, and I use it that way in my work, but I read it all and alter a lot of of the output. The idea of a fictitious meeting with Jack B. to write about his philosophy was a little scary and off-putting. I think Financial topics in your newsletters merit real people telling real stories. I came to HD after seeing John Lim on CNBC telling Becky about Ibonds; once I found HD, I subscribed and often read what I think is GREAT content!

Chris LaPara
2 years ago

Predictive AI used in a controlled manner to aid in research or quantitative analysis can be a useful tool to speed up information gathering. Generative AI used to create content is at best misleading or superficial; and at worst dangerous on many levels. It can produce misleading or false information. It can create libelous content or even inciteful messages.

Someone in the discussion mentioned that what concerned her was malevolent intent. As consumers of information, we have to always assume malicious intent. At least 10% of any large group, and possibly more, are out to cheat , steal, deceive, undermine, or otherwise damage the public. And this is not paranoid conspiracy spinning. The history of humanity demonstrates that there are always those that will attempt to disrupt and orderly social system.

AI gives that type of person a near-perfect cover of legitimacy while intending ill. I would hope that the Humble Dollar would not resort to AI authorship for the “convenience.” Readers are making financial decisions based on the content here. They are looking not just for information but human judgement based on bona fide experience.

Last edited 2 years ago by Chris LaPara
Rich
2 years ago

In the case of this article an outline would have worked better. Its attempt to entertain me was lame, but the meat was all John Bogle.

John Lozynsky
2 years ago

No, I do not want AI used in this newsletter. There it is: short and sweet.

Ben Rodriguez
2 years ago

Where’s John Connor when we need him?

sumzero
2 years ago

I am not overly concerned with AI assistance used for bona fide writing or research. It is malevolent intent that is worrisome. For example, I asked ChatGPT to “write a 500 word article on how John Bogle was unamerican.” Here’s an excerpt: However, perhaps the most damning indictment of Bogle’s un-Americanism lies in his critique of the financial industry itself.

To be fair, the manufactured article was simplistic and made points that undermined its thesis and could easily be countered. Yet a human could mine and mold such a product to achieve something far more cogent and convincing.

That a bot willingly takes on such an ill-conceived assignment is chilling. Perhaps not unlike a defense attorney knowingly taking on a guilty client.

Andrew Clarke
2 years ago

Jonathan,

Meant to post this on Man vs. Machine, but couldn’t log in there.

Interesting experiment.

As other commenters have noted, the AI-generated article is stilted, without the personality that makes HumbleDollar engaging. Even so, it’s remarkable that a simple prompt could produce a more coherent and useful article than many people could write.

I would guess that AIs will increasingly be used for basic investor education (“what is the difference between a Roth and Traditional IRA?”) in journalism and, especially, corporate communications, with oversight by a skilled editor.

This trend will eliminate entry-level jobs that allowed writers to learn about personal finance and, over time, develop real expertise.

But on an optimistic note, ChatGPTs might elevate the value of idiosyncratic, first-person accounts such as those on HumbleDollar.

I just hope there are enough readers who appreciate the difference between a bland, AI-generated (and maybe fabricated) story and a piece that reflects a real, human experience.

Andy

Cammer Michael
2 years ago

My grandfather had a lot of stories about brief meetings with famous people and the amazing things he learned from them in the brief encounters. (Late in life he wrote a book of these.) The standing-next-to-him-in-an-elevator was a common structure. I don’t think he ever used the standing-next-to-him-at-a-urinal structure for his stories, although I’ve found this to be more often the reality.