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On a recent family trip to the UK I learned something new about car rental insurance. During my many years of business travel, we were always told to turn down the collision damage waiver, or CDW, insurance offered by the rental company. Our personal credit card provides rental car insurance, but you must decline the CDW and reserve and pay with that card.
When we picked up our car hire just outside of Oxford we were pleased to see we’d been upgraded to a BMW 500 sedan. We inspected the car, took pictures of the few minor blemishes, and reviewed the additional insurance options. They offered something called excess insurance, which I was unfamiliar with. It was explained that in the event of damage we would be liable up to the value of the car. Excess insurance would cover that, but at £35 pounds per day. I declined this insurance down, thinking our credit card would cover any damages.
You can probably guess what’s coming next. Within a mile or so of leaving the office we missed a turnoff on a rotary and had to get off and head back on the highway. I made a distracted right turn on the entrance ramp in front of an oncoming VW van. The other driver did a great job of trying to miss us, and the impact was at a shallow angle at fairly low speeds. No airbags deployed and the car was still drivable. There was a significant crease, however, on the left (passenger side) of the car from front to back.
The mental damage was greater. The car hit right where my wife was sitting. We were both pretty shaken by the incident, but managed to safely drive back to the car hire office. The staff at the office were extremely professional and caring. Their first concern was our well-being. Once he ascertained that we were OK, the office manager gingerly explained that, since we hadn’t elected the excess coverage, we were responsible for the entire value of the car. We had to purchase the BMW at £56,685 pounds!
As you can imagine this added to our state of shock. Once we understood the situation we chose to divide the amount over 3 credit cards, with the majority charged to the card that we used to make the reservation. We were told that once the repairs had been made they would refund the difference between the excess amount and the actual damages.
After that we cancelled our reservations for that evening in the Cotswolds and returned to Oxford to regroup. At the hotel I contacted our credit card company and initiated a claim. The representative I spoke to had never heard of excess insurance, but was quite helpful. I initiated the claim and followed it closely over the next 6 weeks. I had to provide documentation of the accident, the rental reservation, the final receipt, an accident report, a drawing of the accident, and credit card statements showing the charges and future refunds.
After about three weeks I received a detailed damage report listing the repair costs, fees, and a refund of £43,030.93 pounds. The refund was deposited to our credit cards within a week of receiving the letter. The insurance claim through our credit card for the remainder took a few weeks longer. They initially denied the claim because of the confusion about using multiple credit cards to pay the excess fee, and which card was used to make the reservation and pay for the rental. I had to write a detailed letter explaining the situation and appeal their decision. The case had to be reviewed by their senior appeal board. We never received notification of their decision, but 2 weeks later we received a FedEx package with a check reimbursing us for the repair costs and fees, about £13,654.07.
Clearly this process was unknown to the American insurance companies. I even to spoke to our personal car insurance broker and they were amazed. At the end of the day, we lost about $127 due to currency conversions. We were able to manage the situation and pay off our April credit card bills on time with no interest charges. It didn’t help that we also had a sizeable tax due in April, as well as a $14,000 payment for our next trip this summer. April was a challenging month, but we weathered the storm and came out intact.
There are some obvious lessons from this story. I didn’t properly research auto rentals in the UK. I also didn’t understand the nuances of our credit card’s auto rental insurance, especially how they interact with the rental company’s insurance and our personal auto insurance.
I’m grateful that no one was injured, and that we had the financial resources to manage this. Afterwards I wondered what would have happened had we not had the available credit to charge the full excess. Our credit score has always been very high, but it took a 100-point hit from this. I’m not too worried and will monitor it to see if it returns to its previous level.
Sadly, the accident precluded us from completing our plan of touring the Cotswolds, and Hope Cove. We considered using trains or car services, but we elected to return to London and fly home the next day. Ironically, that coincided with the electrical substation fire that shut down Heathrow airport, so we spent a final weekend enjoying London. There is still a lot of the UK we want to see, but we’ll have to think about how we want to accomplish that.
Rick, glad no one was hurt and that in the end you came out mostly whole financially. Thanks for sharing. Sounds like in spite of the incident you had a good visit. We just returned last week from London. It was our first visit back since living there 1997-2000. It has changed a lot. Fortunately we used the trains, tube and black cabs to get around. I have many fond memories of driving in England, Ireland and on the continent in our British car 25+ years ago that your story brought to mind.
Thanks Jerry. We had a really good tine with family thew first week. I wish we could have continued the rest of the plan, but maybe next time. I recall driving all over Ireland in 2005 without any issues, That was a great trip.
Have to reconsider if offered a vehicle upgrade in the future. The extreme cost of insurance offered by rental companies always baffled me. If it were reasonable, I am sure that many if not most customers would buy it. The revenue would more than make up for potential increased claims.
If I am offered a free upgrade I will ask about the insurance costs of the upgrade. If renting in the UK I would definitely ask the price of the excess cover and compare it to other similar size cars
Your experience perhaps explains why the charge is 35 Pounds per day. I am sure that you have figuratively kicked yourself in the rear many times since this totally preventable accident happened. I am very glad neither of you was injured.
I recall renting a motor scooter in Bermuda when I was much younger and having a small incident which damaged the scooter but left my wife and I uninjured.
Thanks for the well wishes. You are quite correct on the figurative kicking.
I’m so glad you both are okay after the collision. Thank you for sharing about this! I may never drive in another country but if do, I’ll check with my credit card first.
Thanks Susanna. I will also make sure I’m well informed before our next trip.
You could have just bought the car, shipped it to the US and then have the perfect car for a job delivering rural mail to pay for your vacation if you had been unsuccessful in your claim. Ha!
Happy to hear everyone is ok. Note to self, buy the rental insurance and request an increase of my credit card limit.
Bill, you’re responsible for my chuckle of the day. Thank you!😊
Thanks Bill. We joke to everyone we tell about this that we bought a BMW. Sadly we don’t get to drive it. And the steering and everything else was on the wrong side (thus the accident).
Wait – I just got the rural mail delivery joke (wrong side driving). I am getting slow.
And I’m thinking that if I take Kathy W’s advice to travel solo in the UK, it will be by rail!
Agreed. Kathy W is one smart person.
Too kind…
Rick, I’m delighted that you and yours emerged unscathed, both physically and financially. I’m only sorry that this will be the most prominent memory of what should have been a magical trip.
Thanks Mike. The week before the accident we spent with our 2 sons, their wives, and 4 grandsons. We toured London, Stonehenge, Bath, and saw a ManCity match in Manchester. We also did a Willy Wonka tea!! So we have great memories of the first week.
Rick, what a story…errr nightmare. I’m glad you are both ok and that it turned out fine financially. I can’t imagine how many hours you had to invest to resolve this finally. It’s a good thing you’re retired. Let’s try to meet up in the Long Branch area soon. We’re coming down tonight for the Mothers Day weekend.
Thanks. It was a bit of a nightmare but I guess all’s well that ends well. meeting up would be great.
Rick, I’m glad you and your wife are OK. This reminds me of my rental car story.
This was domestic travel in Hartford, CT. To be as brief as possible, I was stopped at a red light in a left turn lane. A driver entered the intersection from the left, but made a wide right turn directly into my car. He tore the left front wheel and axle out of the transmission (front wheel drive), continued on, hit the car behind me, and then crashed into a power pole on the other side of the road.
The vehicle was totaled. The police report confirmed I was not at fault. I was traveling on business for a small company, and had used my personal credit card for payment, but per company policy I did not purchase additional insurance. The rental company provided me with another car, and I finished my business trip.
About a month later, I received a credit card statement and I had been charged the new cost of the vehicle. This was in spite of our business manager involving the corporate insurance carrier. I called my bank to refuse the charge, and the rental company did not contest it. They were trying to get paid twice. That was 25 years ago, and I’ve never used that rental company again.
Contesting is a good idea, Rick, I am not sure I would have paid, did you consider not paying?
In retrospect I wish I had pushed back on the amount of the excess payment. But they did disclose it upfront, although I’m not sure it sank in at the time. There was a lot on my mind at the time, and, as I responded below to Michael, it wasn’t my finest hour.
Thanks Jeff. That’s a crazy story. Insurance can be such a confusing topic, especially for the types we rarely use. Navigating the process can be a challenge.
That all sounds so stressful and upsetting. I’m glad you weren’t injured and that you got most of your money back, but I’m sorry about what a damper it put on your vacation.
For the last couple of years, I’ve been buying annual travel policies from Allianz. We got the AllTrips Premier Plan. They cover every trip we take, domestic or international. Although I also use credit cards with good travel protections, including primary rental car coverage, one of the perks of this policy is that it covers theft or damage to a rental car up to $45,000.
The main reason I have it, though, is for emergency medical care and emergency medical transportation. Credit cards may cover those, too, but they’re complicated—you have to call and have their coordinator oversee things, and if you don’t, your claim may be denied. And if you’re having a medical emergency on a trip, you (or your partner) may not be thinking about that.
The policy costs less than $500/year and it covers both my husband and me. I started getting them after reading an article about how those credit card travel protections, while better than nothing, may not meet every exigency.
Thanks for tip about an annual travel insurance policy. I have Allianz for an upcoming trip, but if I increase my travel significantly when I once again become an empty nester after grandson’s graduation, this is worth considering.
Thanks Dr. We also purchased an annal travel policy for the 2 of us. Kathy W’s articles and comments on that helped guide us. Previously we had purchased travel insurance through a tour company we were using, but it was very expensive. Someone we know was injured skiing in a remote part of Switzerland in January. He had purchased trip insurance, His experience was amazing – they sent a travel nurse to get him and accompany him back to PA.
One thing I’m still a bit confused on is how credit card travel insurance and the annual policy interact. I need to do some more research on that.
One of them should be primary, but you will probably have to read the fine print. I would want the travel policy to be primary, as it is their field. (Glad my writing has helped!)
I appreciate you sharing the details, though I was a little surprised by the direction of your post. After the second paragraph I thought it would end with your credit card not providing coverage because you rented a “luxury car.”
Though after reading all the comments I was astounded that no one questioned the idea of just paying the rental car company $75,000. What if they valued the car at $150,000, would you have paid that amount? What if you just broke a headlight or had a flat tire?
Were you threatened with arrest? As that’s the only way they might get me to pay $75,000, as what if they never processed the refund, or it took a couple of months for it all to process, or they subsequently claimed the car was totaled?
I apologize for my tone, but there’s a craziness to this story that prevents me from wrapping my mind around it.
BTW: What was the name of the rental car company? I may be traveling to the UK this summer and there may be some value in knowing who not to rent a car from.
Michael, thanks for commenting. It was Enterprise. I wish I had a better response to your questions. In retrospect I wish I had questioned the excess payment amount. But it was disclosed to us prior to driving away that without the excess coverage we could be charged the entire value of the car, £56K. I guess I didn’t process it at the time. To be fair Enterprise did exactly what they said after the accident – they processed the repair and refunded the difference within a few weeks. The staff at the Oxford Enterprise office was not at all threatening – they were compassionate and empathetic and very caring. And the staff managing the claim were also professional and kind. At the time I think I slipped into “survival” mode and focused on “fixing” the problem – how to charge it. I probably should have tried to negotiate a lower amount. Not my finest hour.
Rick Connor, I appreciate your reply. While there are thousands of articles in print and on the internet that mention how to insure a rental car. There are only two that provide firsthand accounts: yours and mine. Thanks.
Thanks for the link. That’s a well written article. It sounds very similar, with the exception of replacing a tire with a brand new BMW 500 sedan.
I like your comment about driving a manual. I usually drive an automatic, but I’m comfortable driving a manual shift, but opted for an automatic in Ireland and the UK, figuring there were enough differences. We met a couple from AZ when we were in Ireland in 2005. They had rented a manual shift car. She didn’t mind driving, but hated navigating. He was a lighting engineer and good with maps. The process they worked out was she drove and worked the pedals. He navigated and shifted with his right hand. they said it worked for them.
It was an unbelievably stressful event, except for the fact that no one was injured. I think when you’re in a foreign country, you’re already out of your element even though you were speaking the same language in this case. Still hard to think straight and no time to consider your options.
A good reminder for those of us who occasionally rent a car while traveling. Thanks for sharing. Glad things eventually worked out well for you.
Thanks OITG
Glad you made it out of this fairly unscathed.
Embrace train travel, it gives a different flavor to your travel. I’ll never forget the Grandma from Southern Italy, that I met traveling near Florence. We could barely communicate but it was priceless.
Thanks Scott. We had spent a week in the UK prior to the accident and taken trains from London to Manchester and London to Oxford. We enjoyed both and would gladly use trains again. Had I spent some more time before deciding g to go back to London and fly home, I would have found we couldn’t have taken a train to the south coast and buses (or maybe a car service) to Hope Cove.
Agreed, sometimes a car is the only viable choice
Rick,
I’m glad you and your wife were okay. Thanks for the heads-up on excess insurance.
We rented a car in Cambridge and drove to the Cotswolds and a number of other places. The car rental company didn’t have a car for us, so they gave us the company car. It was a stripped-down, small, red car with the National logo on both doors.
My wife was a little disappointed, but I wasn’t. I thought the smaller the car, the better for navigating those narrow, winding roads. They have a lot of speed cameras and roundabouts, which take a while to get used to. I was surprised we didn’t get hit with a surcharge for speeding when we turned the car in.
There’s one thing I’d buy if we ever rented a car in England again: smelling salts for my wife, because she almost fainted a couple of times sitting in the passenger seat, watching me drive.
Even today, when I think of our trip to the U.K., the first thing that comes to mind is that little red car we drove—not Big Ben or the other wonderful sights. Driving over there can leave a lasting impression on you.
Thanks Dennis. That’s a great story. I felt something similar driving in Ireland 20 years ago in a midsize basic sedan. Lots of small lanes with hedges right at the edge.
My wife was pretty shaken by the accident – the car was approaching directly to her side. I do think the complexity of the car had something to do with being distracted.
The more luxurious the car, the more distracting all the bells and whistles, as per RDQ’s new car.
Readers can find Dick’s Forum post here:
https://humbledollar.com/forum/car-talk-quinn-likes-friendliness/
For anyone else considering car rental hire in the UK this is worth a read from the well renowned Martin Lewis Moneysavingexpert website (https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/cheap-car-hire/). I live in the UK and always buy excess insurance, but only through a third party as below:
Basic insurance will usually be included when you book car hire, but you’ll still have to pay an initial amount (or ‘excess’) if you have a crash or there’s other damage to the car. This can be in the £100s or even £1,000s.
When you collect your car, hire firms often try to flog ‘top-up’ insurance which removes your excess, so you’d pay nothing in the event of an accident or other claim.
This insurance can be as much as £25 a day – DON’T BUY IT.
Instead, look to get an excess policy from a standalone provider for as little as £2 a day. With these policies, you pay the £100s or £1,000s of hire firm’s excess in the event of a claim, and then reclaim the money from the excess insurer.
What’s more, standalone excess policies often cover more than the basic insurance offered by car hire firms, such as damage to wheels and windscreens. Policies and their limits vary from company to company, so always check before buying.
Thanks. I’ve looked at standalone policies since we returned, but I’m not sure it would have changed the initial requirement to put up the excess at the time of the accident. I guess the big question is why was the excess so high – £56K. I’ve seen other references to excess claims in the 1000s.
I think the straightforward answer is, because they can get away with it.
Recently, I scratched up my Avis rental in the Grand Caymans driving on a dirt road to see a shipwreck on the East End. Local Avis put $1200 on my credit card and sent pictures of the damage and a body shop estimate. There was no police report. The problem is that Chase Visa farms out claims to a Virginia company that keeps requesting the same documents (Avis batched the documents and included an attachment Chase didn’t like which was a problem). Bottom line is that reimbursement has been a big hassle with automatic notices and no responses to my emails—I suspect they are hoping I will give up.
Sorry to hear that. My experience with the insurance company wan’t fun, but they were professional and processed the claim and refunded us in about a month. Every time I uploaded more documents I waited an hour and called customer service to verify they received them and that they provided what they needed. The customer service people were generally very good.
Great article Rick. Glad your experience wasn’t any worse than it was.
We spend a lot of time in the UK – and are headed there in a few days in fact. We’ve never rented a car, but we’re considering doing it for a few days.
It sounds as though your insurance reimbursement might have been simpler if instead of using three credit cards to pay, you paid from one source (say a wire transfer, since the whole cost would imply a very large credit limit) and then had one basis for seeking reimbursement for that amount. Do you think that would have mattered?
That said, the lessons we take away for ourselves are (1) think hard about whether we really need a car, and (2) on the rare occasion we decide we do, get the excess insurance. It’s a bit expensive, but not really that bad in the big picture, and there’s no doubt our risk of accident is higher no matter how careful we are.
Thanks Michael. You are absolutely correct that using one credit card for everything would have been better. We called to see if they would increase our limit, which they did – but not to $75K! It worked out in the end but it required a detailed conversation and a follow-up letter with the CC insurance company. I have to say they were very good and approved the entire claim once they had a good understanding.
Glad that everything worked out in the end and nobody was hurt. You mentioned hiring a car as a potential way to get around. I had the extreme privilege to do so many years ago while on assignment in Bath (2004 and 2006). As mentioned here, I too was concerned about my mind shifting back to U.S. driving protocol and in fact, noted two such incidents within Bath where driving can resemble an F1 Grand Prix at times. I truly enjoyed being able to enjoy the beautiful countryside and villages as a passenger rather than a driver focused on the car ahead. A few places we ventured to were accessible by roads that we would refer to here as a two-track and were literally cut through fields of mature corn with many 90 degree turns. Thankfully it was nighttime and the oncoming headlights helped signal that a car was approaching! Ready to go tour England again! You deserve the best
Thanks GW. I’ll definitely look into a combination of public transport and drivers. We used the train from London to Manchester and London to Oxford and it was great.
I recall driving the back roads of SW Ireland on roads as you describe. They were fairly empty and we took our time and did OK. But that was 20 years ago!
What a nightmare! Glad the damage – in all senses – was no worse. I grew up entirely in England, and I drove there for several years before moving to the US, but I haven’t driven there since 2004 and have no plans to do so again. It is possible to have a good trip just using public transport, possibly supplemented by taxis, a car and driver, or a day trip in some places. If you really want to rent a car, it might be better to do so in, say Bath or Oxford if headed west, plus you shouldn’t drive right off a night flight (look up micro-sleep).
The links on my blog have stopped working, but I also reported on one UK trip using public transport here.
Thanks Kathy, We were just outside Oxford where this happened. A few days afterwards when we calmed down I realized we could have taken a train south from Oxford and got a Taxi to Hope Cove. We had been in the UK for a week (London, Manchester, London) so I can’t blame a night flight. It was late afternoon and we had spent the day walking all over Oxford. I ‘ll check out your report. We still want to see the lake regions, hike some of Hadrian’s Wall, Scotland, Cornwall, Dover, ….
I typically travel solo, but for some areas a tour can make sense. I haven’t used this outfit myself, but it gets good reviews on Fodors and I would consider them for the Lake District or the Cotswolds, although if you want to walk in the Cotswolds there are companies that specialize in that. Also in hiking the length of Hadrian’s Wall…
Rick, so glad you guys weren’t injured. We have rented cars on several Caribbean islands, including Grand Cayman. I wonder if we would have been subject to the same rule.
Thanks Dan. I’m not sure but I will pay more attention to future rentals!
Car rental is an opaque industry generally with lots of gotchas so glad your CC co stood by you.
For future reference most Euro car rentals have a deductible/excess though IME unusual for it to be full value of the car (perhaps because you’d chosen a premium auto), usually around EUR2500-5000. CDW/LDW only kicks in above that.
When I hire in the US I generally rent through a consolidator with full 0 deductible LDW included (unusual for our CCs to have full renter’s insurance attached). I’m always hyper alert the first few miles though.
Hope you get your confidence back to drive in UK or Europe again. I find US friends are better in smaller vehicles due to the width of roads and parking spaces.
Thanks, you are correct that it’s confusing. I was surprised at the excess amount, but they did disclose that upfront. In the final image report it did indicate that the car (3 years old, 30,000 miles) value was much less than the excess amount. It was over by then so I didn’t complain.
I’m so happy you didn’t take too big a financial hit, even if it obviously put a big dent in your vacation plans. I may have grown up partly in England, with folks driving on the left. Still, I’m leery of renting a car in the UK or Ireland. I worry that — in the stress of the moment — I’d instinctually turn the wheel the wrong way.
Thanks Jonathan. I drove for 2 weeks in Ireland 20 years ago without an issue. It was a basic sedan and we used maps, and drove mainly in the country. One of the contributing factors this time was that the BMW was loaded with tech. It would take a while to get used to that even in a US rental car. We were trying to get our phone and GPS to work with the car’s Apple Play. We left while Vicky was still trying to get it working and I let that distract me. In retrospect we shouldn’t have left the parking lot without that working and being comfortable with the car’s systems.
I should add that the other party in the accident, a man about my age, could not have been kinder and more understanding. He was more concerned about our well being, especially Vicky’s as she was on the impact side, than he was for himself or his vehicle.