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AUTHOR: R Quinn on 3/04/2025

Twenty years ago I would not have written this, but I have grown less naive.

Consider human nature…when thinking about paying for healthcare and generating retirement income

We have tried countless schemes to manage health care costs, and expand coverage.  Similarly we provide incentives to get people to save for their retirement. The evidence shows only modest progress, but nothing has really solved the basic problems. 

We humans are just short-term thinkers.

Over 20 million Americans still have no health insurance. In  October of 2024, there were 72.1 million people enrolled in Medicaid, and 7.2 million people enrolled in CHIP – all subsidized by taxpayers. 

So, isn’t it time to accept that we are not planners, that we have difficulty with money and implement a universal health care system – no, not socialized medicine – and greatly enhanced Social Security – and pay for both? 

Higher taxes? Absolutely, but that does not mean higher individual spending. What do people spend now on health care? What do taxpayers spend on things like Medicaid and CHIPS and various health related subsidies? All that is replaced, not added to.

How many Americans are adequately saving for their retirement? How many will rely mostly on Social Security? How many seniors receive taxpayer funded assistance of various types at both the state and federal level because they don’t have adequate income? 

A 2024 study by AARP found that 20% of Americans over the age of 50 have no retirement savings at all.  Information from USA facts states that in 2022, 54% of families had a retirement account, this means that potentially 46% of families did not. Isn’t it clear that incentives to save, even avoid taxes are not enough? Now the initiative seems to be auto enrollment, that is grasping at straws. 

Sure, in theory we are adults, we should be able to handle our finances, act prudently, plan for the future, take responsibility for our lives. It’s a nice theory and many people do just that, but many more do not and many can’t because of what life has thrown at them. 

Simply saying we don’t want higher taxes, we don’t want more government is a red herring- between Medicare, Medicaid, CHIPS and the VA over 40% of Americans are already covered by a government health plan.

Looking the other way doesn’t mean we don’t eventually pay for the significant gaps in our social structure. 

Human nature is our greatest challenge and we are not going to overcome that one person at a time. 

Alternative practical ideas are welcome. 

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mytimetotravel
22 days ago

Might I suggest that anyone who thinks the US medical “system” is fine read this?

There are several different, functional, systems in use in other countries, some with more government involvement and some with less. The problems with changing the US system are political dysfunction and the money spent on lobbying on the on hand, and people and companies benefiting from the excess costs on the other.

jerry pinkard
22 days ago

I managed the IT dept for a large local govt. Our agency began matching 401k contributions up to 5%. I mentioned this in a staff meeting, telling people this was like a free lunch. A number of staff said they could not afford it. BS! We had a lot of highly paid techs who could afford it. Many were not that far from retirement.

A classic case of short term thinking.

Olin
22 days ago
Reply to  jerry pinkard

Today’s headline on the main page of HumbleDollar.

You could fail to contribute to your 401(k) with the employer match—or you could refuse your year-end bonus. Same thing.”

Liam K
21 days ago
Reply to  Olin

I will definitely be using that comparison with my coworkers. That gets the point across perfectly!

corrupt
22 days ago

So, isn’t it time to accept that we are not planners, that we have difficulty with money and implement a universal health care system – no, not socialized medicine”

yes, socialized medicine. As proven by the guy who just died up in Canada waiting twelve hours for medical care in the ER, socialized medicine does not work.

mytimetotravel
21 days ago
Reply to  corrupt

Rather than anecdotes, here is data on US emergency room deaths.

Conclusion: “Patients with sepsis and acute respiratory failure die after a long stay in the ER, and the risk increases with overcrowding. A fast-track pathway should be considered for hospital admission of critical patients.”

mytimetotravel
22 days ago
Reply to  corrupt

I grew up with what I imagine you are calling “socialized” medicine. It worked well. The US system costs a lot more for worse results than the system in any other industrialized country. Presumably you are using “socialized” as an insult. That is not helpful.

Nick Politakis
22 days ago
Reply to  corrupt

i guess this never happens in America…

Nick Politakis
22 days ago

Is the reason some Americans don’t save for retirement and don’t have health insurance the fact that under our capitalist system, they can’t afford it?

Last edited 22 days ago by Nick Politakis
Liam K
22 days ago

The solution for retirement systems I read about most recently was a joint program to increase social security funding, and to introduce a government sponsored pension plan available to all Americans called a Guaranteed Retirement Account. The joint system ensures income stability, and the pension system ensures access to highest quality long and mid term investments which are only available to large, managed asset pools. It even promises to be revenue neutral. It seemed like a well researched proposal, if anyone is interested.

Scott Dichter
23 days ago

You have to decide what level of healthcare is universal and what must be privately insured. Without doing that you’re entering a consumption spiral that will bankrupt any system.

That’s what happened with Medicare, it basically went bankrupt and then decided to embrace cost shifting to the non-Medicare part of the population.

But that’s the first hurdle, not the nuts and bolts of the payer system, rather what’s universal and what’s individual.

DAN SMITH
23 days ago

Did anyone mention the effect insurance industry and other special interests would have on negotiations to effect changes to health-care?

Ben Rodriguez
23 days ago

All Americans are required to buy health insurance under the widely known PPACA aka Obamacare. The Supreme Court even rejected 3 challenges to it. It’s illegal to not have health insurance. That’s how that works.

Liam K
23 days ago
Reply to  Ben Rodriguez

That’s not true any longer, the individual mandate was repealed years ago. Some states, however, do maintain tax penalties for those who go without health insurance coverage.

Ben Rodriguez
22 days ago
Reply to  Liam K

The penalty (which the Supreme Court called a tax) was repealed, but not the requirement. You may have noticed that you have to file a form with your tax return proving that you have health insurance.

David Lancaster
23 days ago
Reply to  Liam K

The reason for the insurance mandate as the “uninsured” are in reality insured by those who do have health insurance. There is no free ride. The cost of treating the uninsured is reflected in increased premiums for those who do have insurance.

Jack Hannam
23 days ago

While I don’t have the expertise to address the myriad of details, your overall view makes sense to me.

stelea99
24 days ago

While I think that this is a direction we need to go, the devil is in the details.

  1. You need to get agreement about what coverage will be provided.
  2. You have to include in the plan design roles for all the current players.
  3. You have to make administration as simple as possible.
  4. You have to continue to receive funding from current funding sources; employers, users, governments.
  5. You have to get an agreement about how the cost would be divided up between the parties. This includes how much would be paid to providers.

If you could get the coverage and cost agreements done, the way I would design the system is:

  1. Break the US geography into 8-10 zones made up of groups of states with some view to their cost of living.
  2. Allow insurance companies to bid to provide ALL the people in a zone with the coverage from the agreement for say 3-5 years. So each zone would have a single payer plan. Whoever was in the zone could get medical care.

When someone says the easy way to do this kind of thing is via expanding Medicare, the reason is that Medicare contains a coverage plan, administration and billing, amounts to be paid providers and has a funding plan.

Absent beginning with Medicare as a design base, I don’t think that there is any way to get the needed agreements done.

David Lancaster
23 days ago
Reply to  stelea99

“So each zone would have a single payer plan.”

I think that a Medicare type system where 80% of costs are covered based on federal taxation, then with a required supplement to cover the 20% would be better. This way it gives people some skin in the game, and different options for covering their 20% cost. You could allow any number of insurance companies to provide coverage with different deductibles, and copays, or none. Using the lettered supplement plans which all have the same coverage is a good feature of the Medicare supplement program is a good feature.

David Lancaster
23 days ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Dick your stab at the problem is much appreciated, and certainly something needs to change. But one problem I see in your plan is the division in the country regarding treatments such as abortion, and transgender care.
Are these covered? Are they not? Who gets to decide? Does it bounce back and forth from term to term based on who is in control of congress, or which party controls the White House?

Last edited 23 days ago by David Lancaster
David Lancaster
23 days ago
Reply to  R Quinn

But yet KFF reported in January it has a 64% approval rating.

OldITGuy
24 days ago

I wish it weren’t true but I also find myself coming to the same conclusion. What we’re currently doing, however well it might work for some of us, simply doesn’t work for a significant percentage of the people. I think it’s time for us as a society to accept the data and move towards something that has a chance of working. Planning and saving simply isn’t a realistic expectation for everyone.

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