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“Never cross the street when you hear an ambulance coming, it’s very dangerous, because it’s you it’s trying to run down.”
– Ernie Souchak (John Belushi), Continental Divide, 1981
I just returned from “a free, no obligation presentation on how to protect yourself from expensive emergency ambulance bills and related costs not covered by your primary insurance,” or I like to call it, a free steak.
While this may have been my 15th free one, it was very different from the prior ones, in that it did not deal with giving 1% of my assets to a financial adviser. It was presented by an outfit called Masa, which offers “a prepaid membership program providing protections for medical emergency transportation costs.” Essentially, it provides global coverage that pays all out-of-pocket air & ground ambulance, as well as hospital-to-hospital ground transportation costs not covered by insurance (e.g., Medicare, private insurance).
The presentation was given by a man who used to sell for various investment banks and who has first hand knowledge of the product, as he used it after a recent motorcycle accident. After which, he lost a kidney and his wife “lost” his motorcycle. According to an early slide in his presentation, and his (very) personal experience, ground ambulances can run upwards of $5,000 and air ambulances upwards of $50,000, with rural areas really taking it in the shorts. I then thought to myself, his wife could have saved a fair amount of money by losing his motorcycle just a little earlier.
Much of the balance of the presentation was filled with tales of woe, either recited by the speaker (about himself, his family, and his wife’s former dead husband) or in customer testimony provided by rather good-looking actors. After which he put an impressive and well crafted scare into everyone by telling us about some poor souls who were not customers; having an insurance company withdraw money from a man’s savings account without consent, with another having a lien placed on his farm before having to eventually sell it.
This was all followed by the enumeration of all the other benefits, which includes but are not limited to: Hospital Private Room Upgrade, Organ Recipient Transportation, Grandchildren and Great Grandchildren Protection, Pet Return Transportation, Worldwide Vehicle & RV Return, etc. etc., etc. It left my head spinning as in order to cover all of the benefits, he talked so fast that it would be impossible for anyone to understand them all . . . A rapidity of words and sounds that’d make a New Yorker proud.
Some other presentation details:
The speaker mentioned to me that 20 of the 25 attendees signed up in the morning session, and from what I could see, he was getting similar results at the one I was attending. The woman at my table signed up so fast, I thought she must have been a ringer, though her promptness might have been lubricated by the second glass of wine that she purchased @ 3:34 pm.
My wife gave our presenter the bad news without even conferring with me, as after 23 years of marriage, she can finally read my mind when it comes to four-figure sales solicitations. Although the premium, especially for two, seemed quite fair, prior to the start of the presentation, I had only a slight understanding of the topic and therefore had no way to know if I really needed coverage, what exactly was covered, or if it was all worth it. As Sam in the movie Ronin said after refusing to be ambushed under the Pont Alexandre III, “Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt.”
In the end, I decided not to purchase coverage, as I plan on self-insuring and driving much more cautiously. . . at least for the next few days. After the show was over, I spoke with an attendee who also didn’t bite, though before I could congratulate this kindred spirit, he said he planned to in the near future, as he was currently tight on cash. I didn’t know whether I should shake his hand or cry.
Does anyone have this or similar coverage? What am I missing? Am I the only person who thinks it’s crazy to pay $5,800 without doing any research?
“But wait, there’s more! . . . Set it, and forget it! . . . Call now and get [insert bargain] . . . “
[1] There were also monthly and yearly plans which enable those under 50 to be insured, I mean, be members.
There has always been an issue of network vs out-of-network costs for ambulance services and the differences are huge. Your estimate for air ambulance is probably low.
Since I drove myself to the hospital for my 2010 heart attack rather than pay $2,500 for the out-of-network ambulance to take me 3 miles, I can appreciate the benefit. But similar life insurance, only good if you use it.
Jeez. I’m glad that “drove myself to the hospital for my heart attack” worked out for you, Mark, but please don’t anyone try this. A very good friend of mine in his 50’s and in seemingly great shape was getting ready for bed and didn’t feel quite right. Recognized the symptoms as possibly cardiac related. His wife offered to drive him to the hospital and he told her to call 911. Paramedics arrive and they are talking to him while prepping him for transport when he promptly dies. Twice! Goes into full cardiac arrest two times and they zap him back with the AED. He’s fine now but doc tells him if he had let his wife drive him to the hospital he would be quite dead and most assuredly permanently. Only thing that saved him was the EMTs standing right there with an AED fired up and ready to go. Always call 911 for anything that remotely hints of heart attack.
Mark Eckman, so you drove yourself to the hospital while having a heart attack? Now that’s what I call self insurance!
I just retrieved today’s mail, which included a dinner invite to our favorite Lebanese restaurant, for a sales pitch on this exact product. I will buy my own dinner.
Dan Smith, Say it isn’t so! Let me get Steve Y. on the phone and set you and the Missus up for some free Kibbeh and Tabbouleh. And when you go ask him “What happens when the company decides its customers are eating into its profits and decides to shut down?” as David Mulligan (see below) wants to know.
Thanks for the post. The insurance intrigues me, but it sounded like a semi-slimy sales pitch, which would have made up my mind similarly. And +10 points for the Ronin quote – such a great movie.
Leo Shanley, appreciate your feedback, and you my friend sound like a man who’d “never walk into a place [you] don’t know how to walk out of.”
That’s something I’d never sign up for without extensive research, which I’m sure would dissuade me from signing up at all. What happens when the company decides its customers are eating into its profits and decides to shut down?
As for the free dinner postcards, I throw away at least one a week, along with those stupid Fisher envelopes.
David Mulligan, I think you, Dan Smith and Jeff Bond should start some sort of Fisher mailer recycling program. It could go a long way towards mitigating Global Warming.
Ha. We religiously recycle paper, plastics, and glass. I have a special place for collecting spent spent batteries, fluorescent bulbs, and expired electronics. Did I mention that we compost? 🙂
I’m a sucker for the “3 day vacation” to listen to a 1 hour “interval vacation” spiel. The only issue we’ve run into is trying to book the vacation into our schedules within the allotted time frame. Otherwise, we’ve had positive experiences, but always politely decline their sales pitch.
Mr. Flack, please do not use the word “gyped”(also spelled gypped). It is a racial slur. Swindled would be better.
Howard Schwartz, thanks for your feedback, though I think “short-changed” is a better synonym.
I learned something new today from your comment. NPR has what I think is good explanation in a 2013 post on the history of the word and why the early meaning was unknown to me and likely many others.
I agree with your decision, and more importantly that I certainly wouldn’t drop six grand immediately following a sales pitch on a topic I otherwise knew little about.
We used to have medical evacuation insurance. I don’t recall the exact cost, but it was so low as to almost be a no brainer for someone who’s retired and nomadic and who’s usually outside the U.S.
I’m also with you on the free steaks, but my wife puts a hard no on these things, so I haven’t had a free steak in exchange for a presentation in years.
r.e,; According to an early slide in his presentation, and his (very) personal experience, ground ambulances can run upwards of $5,000
-My 5 year anniversary of taking an ambulance ride is in 3 days —> it cost just a wee bit less than above, ie $ 600 !
For those who have recently started reading Humble Dollar I would offer some history that Michael Flack wrote the chapter titled “Learning By Erring” in the 2023 “My Money Journey” book edited by Jonathan Clements. I have my paperback copy that I received on January 28, 2023 sitting on my desk.
Michael’s chapter, the final one before Jonathan’s conclusion in the 2023 book, summarized Michael’s experiences in his journey to shift his investments to low-cost index funds.
Thanks for writing this additional post. I enjoyed again reading your classic NY skeptic commentary and have again just reread your chapter.
Jonathan concluded the 2023 book with an invitation for readers to send to send him their essay and, just maybe, he would publish it as an article on Humble Dollar.
William Perry, thank you for your most insightful comments. Any appreciation you may have for my chapter has to do with Jonathan’s innovative idea for the book and his skillful editing of my prose. If anyone else might want to read both, then . . .
https://humbledollar.com/book/my-money-journey/
Glad you enjoyed the meal! No steak on this earth could drag me to a sales pitch. I would sooner regrout the entire bathroom with a cocktail stick, one tile at a time, while someone reads me post modern poetry and still consider it a more enriching afternoon 😉
100%, Mark. We get at least one dinner invite per month, as well as a huge mailer from Fisher Investments. Thank God for the recycle bin.
Dan – I don’t keep count, but I’m surprised by the number and variety of invitations we receive. Nothing hits the recycle bin quicker than one of those large envelopes from Fisher Investments!
Dan Smith, I agree with you on how to deal with anything involving Fisher Investments . . . I met with one of their Reps (once), and she couldn’t be bothered to buy me a cup of coffee, let alone a steak.