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Not So Gloomy

Adam M. Grossman

IS THE STOCK MARKET headed for a sea change? That’s the argument money manager and author Howard Marks makes in his most recent memo.

The sea change Marks is referring to: For four decades, the federal funds rate declined steadily—from a peak of 20% in 1980 to 0% in 2020. The result, Marks argues, was a steady tailwind for the stock market.

In January 1980, the S&P 500 index stood at 108. At its peak early last year, it topped 4,800, marking a period of impressive gains. Marks acknowledges that innovation played an important part in the stock market’s performance—think of all the companies and technologies created since 1980. Still, he argues, “I’d be surprised if 40 years of declining interest rates didn’t play the greatest role of all.”

That brings us to the sea change: Over the past year, the Federal Reserve has reversed course, lifting its benchmark interest rate by more than four percentage points. Not coincidentally, over that same period, the stock market has dropped about 15%, with many individual stocks down far more. Where interest rates go from here is an open question. But one thing is clear: It would be mathematically impossible for rates to replicate their feat of the past four decades and drop another 20 percentage points.

As a result, Marks paints a downbeat picture for stock market investors. Among the adjectives he uses to describe this new era: guarded, uncertain, hesitant. But should Marks’s outlook concern you? Below are some observations.

On the facts, I agree. There’s no question that four decades of declining interest rates provided an enormous tailwind. But that doesn’t necessarily mean the next four decades will deliver the opposite. In other words, there’s no reason to expect that rates will now rise by 20 points. That’s because economic conditions today are very different from those of 1980.

Back then, the Fed cranked rates up to 20% because it had little choice. Inflation had been stubbornly high—hitting 13.5% at the beginning of 1980—and drastic action was needed. By contrast, while today’s inflation is high, it has been showing signs of improvement. The most recent 12-month reading for the Consumer Price Index was 6.5%, down from 9.1% in the middle of last year.

While anything could happen, it appears things are now headed in the right direction. If the Fed succeeds in bringing inflation fully under control, there would be no need to continue raising rates indefinitely. We might still see some more increases this year, but then rates would level off. If that’s how things turned out, interest rates wouldn’t necessarily represent an indefinite headwind for stocks. Instead, they’d become more of a neutral factor, and that wouldn’t be such a problem, as explained below.

Stocks can still prosper. It’s important to keep in mind that the fundamental driver of stock prices is corporate earnings. Higher interest rates do put a dent in profits for some firms—if they have debt—but, in general, there’s no reason to think that companies will be less productive in the future. They’ll still innovate and develop new products, which will drive earnings growth. Population growth also contributes to earnings growth.

As Marks points out, higher rates do cause investors to put a lower value on earnings—owing to the way the math of present-value calculations works—and that’s a headwind for stocks. But it’s not a permanent headwind. In other words, we shouldn’t expect stocks to fall continuously into the future. Indeed, stocks would only fall continuously if interest rates rose continuously. As noted above, the latest data suggest that’s not where things are headed.

Another driver of the stock market is demand. Even though stocks are relatively less attractive compared to bonds in a world of higher interest rates, stocks should still be more attractive over the long term. Suppose stocks return only 7% on average in the coming decades, compared to 10% historically. That would still beat the 4% to 5% that bonds are paying.

For that reason, most people will still prefer the stock market for their long-term savings, and that will mean ongoing demand for stocks. That demand would help support share prices. It would take a long period of stock market malaise to turn investors off stocks, in my view. That’s because there’s no obvious alternative and because, simplistic as it may sound, savers need somewhere to put their money.

Higher rates aren’t all bad for investors. Interest rates function as a sort of redistribution mechanism. When rates are low, they punish bondholders and reward investors in risky assets, such as stocks. When rates are higher, bondholders benefit while stock market investors don’t do as well. Investors who own both stocks and bonds, then, are hedged, though it’s not perfectly proportional. Lower rates, which were a tailwind to stocks, provided a much larger benefit than the extra percentage points of interest that investors are now earning on the bond side of their portfolio. Nonetheless, the current situation isn’t all negative for investors.

Higher rates have another benefit. A key criticism of the Fed is that, in the past, it’s left interest rates too low for too long. A result was that, on the eve of the COVID-19 crisis in February 2020, the Fed’s benchmark rate was at just 1.5%. That left policymakers little room to maneuver and forced them to turn to what I’ve called the Tommy gun of monetary policy: a technique known as quantitative easing.

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If you’ve heard about the government “printing money,” that’s what quantitative easing is. I’d argue it’s not a sound policy option and, if we can avoid it, we should. With rates at a higher level now, that leaves the Fed more room to lower rates in the future when it needs to, and thus avoid printing money. It’s a healthier place to be.

What does this all mean for investors? I don’t share Marks’s gloomy outlook. Still, his warning is a reminder to investors to make sure their portfolios are effectively diversified. On the stock side, higher interest rates are relatively better for value stocks—the shares of older, slower-growing and dividend-paying companies—than for growth stocks, so you’ll want to make sure your portfolio is balanced.

While I’m an advocate for simple portfolio structures, this is an area where it’s worth a little extra work. That’s because, after years of outperformance, technology company stocks now dominate broad-based indexes like the S&P 500. According to data from Morningstar, growth stocks now outweigh their value peers by nearly two-to-one in the S&P 500. For that reason, I recommend supplementing the S&P 500 with a separate, smaller holding in a value index fund.

On the bond side, it’s also important to diversify. I recommend only government bonds, and only short- or intermediate-term issues. But even within those narrow categories, you’ll want to diversify across both conventional and inflation-protected bonds. That will help your overall portfolio hold up whether inflation continues to fall or we see a resurgence. Indeed, Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) are now pricing in just 2.2% inflation over the next 10 years. Should inflation continue at any level above that, TIPS investors would benefit.

A final note: If you are in your working years and a net saver, Marks’s downbeat forecast shouldn’t concern you. Indeed, young people should actually look forward to market downturns because they’re an opportunity to pick up shares at lower prices.

Adam M. Grossman is the founder of Mayport, a fixed-fee wealth management firm. Sign up for Adam’s Daily Ideas email, follow him on Twitter @AdamMGrossman and check out his earlier articles.

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Marjorie Kondrack
Marjorie Kondrack
6 days ago

Adam…as always, thanks for giving us enough food for thought to help us sort it all out in this capricious world of investing.

johny
johny
9 days ago

Hi Adam, why do you recommend for bonds only government? In my 401K there are no government bond funds.

Richard Gore
Richard Gore
9 days ago

Sounds like wishful thinking to me. I’m not however sure that anyone can predict the future.

Last edited 9 days ago by Richard Gore
steveark
steveark
9 days ago

I think the thing that will keep us (US) in the doldrums for the foreseeable future is the declining birth rate. It pretty much stalemated the Japanese economy and may very well have a repeat performance here. I’m not worried about it because my accumulation and growth years were in the last four great decades, but it doesn’t look so great for younger investors. I don’t see economic disaster just slow growth and low real rates of return.

Adam Field
Adam Field
7 days ago
Reply to  steveark

While it’s true that the declining US birthrate is a big problem for our economic future, our experience will be different than Japan’s for one large reason…immigration. Japan still refuses to open its doors more than crack. We have a LONG way to go in improving our immigration system, but we at least allow some (IMO too little) immigration.

wtfwjtd
wtfwjtd
9 days ago

While I understand about complex problems and complicated solutions, it’s hard to imagine the US Treasury paying 20 per cent on $31 trillion of debt. Heck, even half that level would wipe out most all other Federal spending eventually. I guess my point is, while the present may resemble the past in some ways, the path forward from here is surely going to be different. There’s only so much the Fed can raise rates, no matter how committed they say they are to “fighting inflation” or whatever. Owning stocks may not be as attractive in a relative sense as in the recent past, but they will still still surely make up the bulk of a successful investor’s portfolio.

Kenneth Tobin
Kenneth Tobin
9 days ago

Mark’s concerns should not bother anyone as the markets are random. The next 50 yrs in the stock mkt stock mkt should replicate the past 50

Guest
Guest
9 days ago
Reply to  Kenneth Tobin

For the high majority of HD readers they don’t care about the next 50 years. They care about the next 10-15.

Guest
Guest
9 days ago

I read Howard’s memo last month and, unfortunately, agree with his perspective. While that doesn’t mean I’ve bailed on equities it does confirm my belief that US equity returns for the next several years need to be dialed way back. I look forward to my overweight in both emerging and foreign developed equities to outperform the US.

M Plate
M Plate
8 days ago
Reply to  Guest

Guest, Before the term “Emerging Markets” the politically offensive term “3rd world” was used. US investors and US banks that invested there, lost money big time. Google “debt forgiveness for Latin America, and Africa”.
Foreign stock markets, even those as prosperous and stable as 1980’s Japan, have traditionally proven poor investments compared to the US market.

Kenneth Tobin
Kenneth Tobin
9 days ago

As Bogle said “STAY THE COURSE”. We will see new highs

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