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Taxpayers Say the Darndest Things

"Mark, I can think of a few people I'd love to experiment on, you nor any other HDers are among them. Suzie would not want me faffing about up there; I would only make things worse."
- DAN SMITH
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Your Portfolio, Your Business

""What are some signs that an investor might be taking on too much risk or maybe playing it too safe with their allocations?" "Well, again, I think it comes back to time horizon, and people can use age 50 as kind of a rough cutoff as to whether they should care about taking too much risk. I do sense that there’s a lot of complacency among older adults. They’ve had a great run in the stock market. [17 years since the last significant sustained economic downturn - Benz]. And it’s kind of a perverse thing. As we age and we become more battle-tested in terms of the ups and downs, we feel more risk-tolerant, but our actual capacity to absorb risk has gone down." - Christine Benz, Morningstar October 2, 2025. I think proper risk assessment is very important. Knowing one's risk tolerance and risk capacity, for example. I did play it too safe after the Dot-Com bust. Or perhaps not. I was 54 and had nearly dug myself out of a very deep financial hole. My net worth was $5,315 with very few assets. I've read of those who own $millions in property but are high in debt. I wasn't one of those and had few "assets" to speak of."
- normr60189
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You can’t prove the assumptions you may rely on. How did you test yours?

"Well, it wasn't just you -- the bankers you had review your plan also must have had forecasts and assumptions that aligned with yours!"
- Dave Melick
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May 2025 Moving Averages

"S&P 500 Index Moving Average September 30, 2025 Summary
  • As of today (October 3, 2025), SPX index 200-day simple moving average is 6027.68, with the most recent change of +3.32 (+0.06%) on October 2, 2025.
  • Over the past year, SPX index 200-day SMA has increased by +778.67 (+14.83%).
  • SPX index 200-day SMA is now at all-time high.
Performance: 1-month change +1.07% 3-month change +3.16% YTD change +8.58% 1-year change +14.83% 5-year change +93.71%"
- normr60189
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Cloudy with Scattered Bubbles

""focus on percent change in total portfolio value." Yes. A portfolio that has doubled in value can sustain a loss of 50% before those losses dip into initial value, which is the money one put in. In the most recent 5 years the S&P 500 has nearly doubled in value. Since July 2013 it has quadrupled in value. How much is enough????"
- normr60189
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What words of wisdom would you have for your younger self?

"
  1. Don't do it, there's no shame in breaking an engagement. You're far too young and stupid right now and she's not the right one for you (and you're not the right one for her).
  2. You are actually NOT saving nearly enough for the retirement you imagine. Start shovelling gobs of money into a Roth IRA too, plus a taxable account. And start thinking how to turn your growing pile into a steady paycheck for that day when yours suddenly vanishes.
  3. There can be even greater joys ahead if you accept change and lean into a different set of hopes and dreams. Just do it.
  4. Beware of the "end of history" falacy (after 3+ years).
"
- David Powell
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The Luxury of Low Expectations: What We Gained by Having Less

"Our first cost $29,000. When we moved in we found many windows missing, the fireplace was fake and the oil burner so old it couldn’t be fixed. When the owners left they ripped up a grass carpet in the bedroom leaving over 100 nails sticking up out of the floor. Those were the days before inspections. We sold it five years later for $42,000 in 1975. Last I looked it sold for $400,000."
- R Quinn
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Information on Jonathan’s Memorial Service

"Dave, thanks for the link. The museum is on our must-see list."
- DAN SMITH
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Traveling First Class in Vanguard’s International Stock Index Fund

"Is there a possibility of currency risk to consider? Yes there is.The US dollar has dropped 11% just this year because of US policies. The MSCI EAFE Index is up 25.2% through August 22nd while the S&P 500 is up 10.9%, and a large proportion of that gain is devaluation of the dollar versus foreign currencies. Overall our equity allocation is 45%, 2/3 US, but our ROTH position is 100% Vanguard Total World as these funds may never be touched. Addendum: Just read an article by John Rekenthaler on Morningstar. Can you guess what countries, after the US, had the highest returns over the last ten years? Taiwan, Hungary, and the Czech Republic!"
- David Lancaster
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Bogleheads 2013 post – I Bonds, CPI, and the Government Shutdown answer

"Thanks for your comment Mark. I agree that any manipulated alternative index would undermine the US government's stated purpose to offer inflation -protected debt securities. I view such alternative indexes as increasing uncertainty which would increase risk and it seems to me would increase, in at least the short term, the cost to the government of issuing such new debt and also decrease the value of such already issued bonds. As I plan to hold my TIPS to maturity I hope I will not suffer a future loss from my maturing TIPS. If the inflation index for social security benefits was intentionally understated I expect the lower cost to the government would be to the as scheduled social security benefits and such reduction would be born by the beneficiaries. Time will tell. Best, Bill"
- William Perry
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Free Lunch?

"I signed up my E*Trade account (@$450,000) at the end of August. For September I made $3.06. Most of it on shares on NGG. Unfortunately E*Trade does not provide any details on each loan, so I have no idea on interest rates or the duration of each."
- Michael Flack
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Taxpayers Say the Darndest Things

"Mark, I can think of a few people I'd love to experiment on, you nor any other HDers are among them. Suzie would not want me faffing about up there; I would only make things worse."
- DAN SMITH
Read more »

Your Portfolio, Your Business

""What are some signs that an investor might be taking on too much risk or maybe playing it too safe with their allocations?" "Well, again, I think it comes back to time horizon, and people can use age 50 as kind of a rough cutoff as to whether they should care about taking too much risk. I do sense that there’s a lot of complacency among older adults. They’ve had a great run in the stock market. [17 years since the last significant sustained economic downturn - Benz]. And it’s kind of a perverse thing. As we age and we become more battle-tested in terms of the ups and downs, we feel more risk-tolerant, but our actual capacity to absorb risk has gone down." - Christine Benz, Morningstar October 2, 2025. I think proper risk assessment is very important. Knowing one's risk tolerance and risk capacity, for example. I did play it too safe after the Dot-Com bust. Or perhaps not. I was 54 and had nearly dug myself out of a very deep financial hole. My net worth was $5,315 with very few assets. I've read of those who own $millions in property but are high in debt. I wasn't one of those and had few "assets" to speak of."
- normr60189
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You can’t prove the assumptions you may rely on. How did you test yours?

"Well, it wasn't just you -- the bankers you had review your plan also must have had forecasts and assumptions that aligned with yours!"
- Dave Melick
Read more »

May 2025 Moving Averages

"S&P 500 Index Moving Average September 30, 2025 Summary
  • As of today (October 3, 2025), SPX index 200-day simple moving average is 6027.68, with the most recent change of +3.32 (+0.06%) on October 2, 2025.
  • Over the past year, SPX index 200-day SMA has increased by +778.67 (+14.83%).
  • SPX index 200-day SMA is now at all-time high.
Performance: 1-month change +1.07% 3-month change +3.16% YTD change +8.58% 1-year change +14.83% 5-year change +93.71%"
- normr60189
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Cloudy with Scattered Bubbles

""focus on percent change in total portfolio value." Yes. A portfolio that has doubled in value can sustain a loss of 50% before those losses dip into initial value, which is the money one put in. In the most recent 5 years the S&P 500 has nearly doubled in value. Since July 2013 it has quadrupled in value. How much is enough????"
- normr60189
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What words of wisdom would you have for your younger self?

"
  1. Don't do it, there's no shame in breaking an engagement. You're far too young and stupid right now and she's not the right one for you (and you're not the right one for her).
  2. You are actually NOT saving nearly enough for the retirement you imagine. Start shovelling gobs of money into a Roth IRA too, plus a taxable account. And start thinking how to turn your growing pile into a steady paycheck for that day when yours suddenly vanishes.
  3. There can be even greater joys ahead if you accept change and lean into a different set of hopes and dreams. Just do it.
  4. Beware of the "end of history" falacy (after 3+ years).
"
- David Powell
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The Luxury of Low Expectations: What We Gained by Having Less

"Our first cost $29,000. When we moved in we found many windows missing, the fireplace was fake and the oil burner so old it couldn’t be fixed. When the owners left they ripped up a grass carpet in the bedroom leaving over 100 nails sticking up out of the floor. Those were the days before inspections. We sold it five years later for $42,000 in 1975. Last I looked it sold for $400,000."
- R Quinn
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Information on Jonathan’s Memorial Service

"Dave, thanks for the link. The museum is on our must-see list."
- DAN SMITH
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Manifesto

NO. 75: WANT TO give to charity or family? We’ll boost happiness and possibly save on taxes by giving now. But if we’re struggling to fund retirement, we should bequeath the money instead.

act

SELL EMPLOYER stock. You may be comfortable with your employer’s shares, thanks to the familiarity, but it’s arguably the riskiest stock you can own. What if the firm got into trouble? You could end up out of work and holding a fistful of worthless shares. Also avoid the stocks of competing companies, which will be subject to the same market pressures.

think

HICK’S LAW. This states that the time it takes to make a decision increases with the number of choices—and, if there are numerous possibilities, folks may simply give up and make no decision. Buying a house? To avoid a lot of hemming and hawing, you might focus on just five key factors. Picking investments? You might limit yourself to one company’s mutual funds.

Truths

NO. 108: OUR HUNTER-gatherer instincts tell us to consume right away—and not save for the future. What to do? We might automate our regular savings. We should visualize our goals, so they seem more alluring than today’s spending. We might share our financial ambitions with others, so fear of their disapproval prods us to spend less and save more.

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Manifesto

NO. 75: WANT TO give to charity or family? We’ll boost happiness and possibly save on taxes by giving now. But if we’re struggling to fund retirement, we should bequeath the money instead.

Spotlight: Advisors

Third Time’s a Charm

I MADE A MAJOR change late in my career, leaving behind my job as a financial manager at a dying computer business. I knew I needed to change. If I didn’t, there was a good chance I’d soon be out of work.
My new job, however, wasn’t what I expected.
I’d been with the computer company since graduating college. I was in my mid-50s and smart enough financially to know I still needed more savings for a successful retirement.

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Unheard Of

TALKING TO A BROKER or insurance salesman? Here are 10 things you’ll likely never hear:

“Wow, your 401(k) has great low-cost institutional funds. There’s no way you should roll that money into an IRA.”
“Do you know that you could buy these funds outside a variable annuity and pay a fraction of the price?”
“Sure, you could make that trade—but probably the only person who will get richer is me.”
“My hunch is, this closed-end fund you’re buying will be at discount within a few months of the IPO.”
“Given the markup on that bond you just bought,

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Costs Matter

I’m sure many Humble Dollar readers have read various iterations of this innumerable times.
I was just reading Adam Grossman’s (soon to be published on the HD website) weekly email where he quotes Warren Buffet as stating, “Performance comes, performance goes. Fees never falter.”
John Bogle’s is famously quoted as saying, “You get what you don’t pay for. Costs matter.”
Yesterday I was speaking with my daughter in law about these famous quotes when urging her to investigate what her 403b fee is.

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Peace of Mind

I HAVEN’T BEEN feeling myself lately. Until now, I didn’t understand what had brought this on. You see, I have this different attitude toward money—and it’s changed the way I behave.
Before, it seemed like money was always on my mind. I used to love to read Barron’s every week. Now, I just pick it up in front of my house and toss it in the garage, where it joins 20 other unread copies. 

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You Aren’t Listening

WHEN IT COMES to communication, I’m kind of a fanatic. (My wife would say I should drop the “kind of.”) More specifically, I’m a fan of responsive communication.
Back in my working days, when I practiced criminal law, I made it a point to return phone calls and emails from clients promptly. It was rare that I didn’t do it the same day. If that meant staying late at the office until I caught up,

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Investing in Dimensional Funds

My husband and I are considering working with a firm that will develop a strategic financial masterplan that will include tax strategies, Roth IRA conversions, estate planning, charitable giving and gifting among other things . We are also talking with an advisor who invests in Dimensional Funds. This is a big change for us currently investing in individual stocks, bonds and mutual/ETF funds. We have worked with individual CFPs who claim they offer these services but rarely do they provide comprehensive financial strategies and the main focus is on the portfolio performance.

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Spotlight: Rodriguez

Should all Americans pay federal income tax?

RDQ's recent post about seniors paying taxes reminded me that presently only 53% of Americans pay federal income tax.  Many of the remaining 47% are net recipients of money from the treasury.  We all know that everyone working pays payroll taxes, but should everyone pay income tax? On the Yea side, having all citizens paying income tax would give everyone "skin in the game" when it comes to voting on tax policy and expenditures.  As it is, it is very easy to see why the 53% would ask why the 47% gets to vote on how much the 53% is taxed and where those funds go.  If the percentages flip just a little more there will be more non-payors than payors, creating a potentially perverse situation. On the Nea side, one must wonder if we're asking for blood from a turnip?  As it is, if the 47% are net zero or net takers and are barely making ends meet as it is, where does this tax money come from?
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Did you retire in or around year 2000? If so, how’s it going?

I see this new Forum as akin to the Bogleheads forum.  I have some problems with that site, and I (obviously) like this one better.  But one very interesting post I saw related to retirees from 2000. The idea is that, theoretically, 2000 was just about the "worst time" someone could retire because it was shortly before the 9/11/2001 drop in stocks, followed by the 2008-09 plunge. As a mid-career investor, I'd be interested to hear how retirees from that time period fared.
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Ever heard Down the Middle?

I'm betting that a large number of fellow HumbleDollarians have never heard of a podcast called Down the Middle (Down the Middle Archives | Creative Planning).  It is a pod hosted by our fearless founder Jonathan Clements and co-hosted by Peter Mallouk of Creative Planning. You can find it on Apple or anywhere podcasts are found. It's released only once a month at the beginning of the month. It's one of the pods I most look forward to.  Each episode is only about 10 or 15 minutes long, so the good news is if you've never heard of it, you can catch up on a year's worth of episodes in little time. In the past, Jonathan has been reluctant to promote (or allow promotion) of this pod, but I'm hoping he'll let this one through. I find the content very edifying, and I think it's great to hear his voice.  If you're into podcasts, check it out.
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My Mentor

FOURTEEN YEARS AGO, my father-in-law was diagnosed with a blood cancer—multiple myeloma—and given five years to live. Ever since, he’s been battling it like a warrior. But he’s dying now, and he won’t be around much longer. My father-in-law grew up without money to Depression-era parents. He earned his way into a prestigious college, and eventually received a PhD in chemical engineering. He had an impressive career as an engineer with a large chemical company in the Midwest. He was an internationally recognized expert in his field. Like most engineers, he was a tinkerer. He liked to figure out how things worked. As a do-it-yourself investor, he did well in the stock markets of the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s. He retired early, with a paid-off house and a handsome nest egg. And that was after putting two kids through college, including my future wife. As for me, I was born to be wealthy. But by some galactic mistake, my family had little money, but—thankfully—a strong work ethic. I went to college by borrowing the full amount for tuition, room and board. After graduating, I had little desire to repay my loans. I also discovered that all the good political scientist jobs had already been taken. I decided the only sensible thing to do was to go to law school—and borrow twice as much for that degree. I knew very little about money when I landed my first job as a lawyer. My impression of finance was that it was a complicated subject best left to the experts. I never dreamed of becoming a do-it-yourself investor. I started investing in my firm’s 401(k) plan at age 27. That happened to be when the market peaked just before the Great Recession. Two years later, the market had bottomed out. By then I had moved to another firm, and was investing modest sums in that firm’s 401(k). I’m sure I’d heard of a Roth IRA, but had no actual idea what it was, let alone how or why to invest in one. In 2009, just as the financial world was reeling from the market crash, my father-in-law suggested that I roll my old 401(k) into a Roth IRA. That way, I’d pay the conversion tax bill while in a low bracket, because I was still early in my career. He encouraged me to open an account at Vanguard Group and invest in its Small-Cap Index Fund (symbol: VSMAX). Little did I know that my adventure in personal finance had just begun. On visits to the in-laws’ house, the reading material consisted of The Wall Street Journal, especially the weekend editions. Discussions often turned to personal finance, including investing ideas and themes. As with most things, when you become interested in a topic, you end up learning a lot. [xyz-ihs snippet="Mobile-Subscribe"] Reading the Journal led me to online articles. Which led to books and blogs on finance, and eventually hours per week of podcasts. Soon enough, I was reading John Bogle and Burton Malkiel. I formed the belief that, generally speaking, broad market index funds were the way to go. My father-in-law, always the tinkerer and maverick, had more of a flair for actively managed funds. He’d certainly earned the right to select his own investments. You can’t argue with success. Over the years, we’d trade articles and ideas. He’d quietly cheer on my wife and me as we hit milestones in our own financial journey. Looking back, I’m surprised at how far I’ve come in my knowledge of personal finance. It’s not a very difficult topic to learn. Yet many people find it daunting, and I was one of them. I was fortunate to have encouragement from a mentor, one who had made his own way in the world. He approached every topic as one that, with enough effort, he could master. I certainly learned a lot from my father-in-law over the years, but I’ll always think of personal finance as the one thing we really bonded over. I don’t think I’d ever have learned to love it without his influence. After someone is gone, it’s nice to share with others what that person meant to you. But it’s even better to do so while he or she is still alive. I hope they have The Wall Street Journal in Heaven. If they do, please save the weekend business section for me for when I get there. Licensed in both Ohio and Kentucky, Ben Rodriguez practices real estate law in Cincinnati, where he lives with his wife and daughters. Since 2009, Ben's made a hobby out of personal finance by reading books and articles on the subject, and also listening to podcasts. Check out his earlier articles. [xyz-ihs snippet="Donate"]
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Is now the time to go long in bonds?

This may sound crazy to most readers here, but as a 45 year-old, until 2022 I had never lived in, let along invested in, a rising interest rate environment. This is, of course, owing to the enduring bond bull market from 1981-2022 (RIP).  Obviously, we all know rates rose in 2022 and have held steady for a bit.  They are now mostly in the 4% range depending on duration. As a young investor in the 2010s and early 20s, I didn't find bond interest rates in the sub-3%, sometimes sub-2% range to be a compelling investment compared to stocks. Could now be the time to go long in bonds?  Why or why not?
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How Do They Know?

ONE OF MY FAVORITE pastimes is listening to podcasts. I subscribe to about 20—half of them related to finance. One series, produced by a large Wall Street investment house, features three-to-five-minute episodes. They’re usually about market trends or economic analysis. Truthfully, they aren’t among my favorite podcasts. But I like their short length when I don’t have time for a 30- or 60-minute episode. On a recent podcast, listeners were told that the firm’s economists believe that U.S. stocks will decline 5% in the next six months. I chuckled at the hubris of such a prediction. How could something like that be known with such specificity? What else did they know that they weren’t telling us? Maybe I should believe them. After all, it is a well-known Wall Street firm. On the other hand, if the firm possessed this kind of clairvoyance, wouldn’t it be bigger than Vanguard Group, Amazon and Apple combined? And why would the folks there give away such knowledge for free? Something tells me that their specific predictions in the past must not have panned out. I’ve heard it said that the only people who can always be wrong and keep their jobs are meteorologists and economists. I have yet to meet anyone who can predict the direction of the markets with any accuracy. My plan: Assume that I won’t be able to, either. I stay invested and keep contributing every month to meet my goals, no matter what the market’s doing.
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