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This month I am hosting a couple evacuated from the Iran/US war zone. They each (ages 40 and 29) have been saving money, but not systematically, and asked for some coaching on how to get their affairs organized.
We’ve had one session so far. Here is what we covered:
– Understanding that 15% of gross income should be saved for retirement.
– First, set up an emergency fund. (How much, why, where, have all been covered)
-Second, track spending. (set up a tool similar to Monarch.com so expenses can be examined to plan your future retirement savings)
I’m thinking about what will be next. I’d welcome suggestions of topics I should cover while I have them here with me, and paying attention.
I think what was mentioned is most important. One of the challenges is managing lifestyle creep. Tracking spending can lead to budgeting and that is a means to that end. I’d add that it is important to avoid debt.
Sticking my neck out once again, 15% savings to start, good. Emergency fund, right.
But if those two are accomplished why the need to track spending – with the understanding any credit card spending must be paid in full at months end?
What does tracking spending add to the process? Following the above guidelines guarantees wealth accumulation does it not?
I would add one additional step and that is to increase saving rate with each increase in income. It doesn’t have to be a full percentage if increases are modest, but something, perhaps saving anything from above base pay will help.
Dick, I’m going to go out on a limb and say that when adults (ages 40 and 29) ask for help with getting financial affairs in order, there are probably behaviors that need to be altered. Analyzing and understanding where the money went is at the top of the list of things to do.
These guys aren’t starting out with a clean slate. They can’t just begin saving 15%. They will have baggage to unload first. They are lucky to have someone like Laura who is willing to help. The question is whether or not they will act on her suggestions.
Sorry Dan, can’t see it. And I didn’t get what you did from the article. It says they are saving money, just not systematically.
If they attempt to save 15% and can’t make it work, then they need to see if there are areas where spending can be trimmed, but I just don’t see working the other way.
When I read that people need a budget to determine what they can save, I see that as a strategy for failure. Rather, saving first determines what can be spent.
If they attempt to save 15% and can’t make it work, then they need to see if there are areas where spending can be trimmed….
I see us being on the same page here. How do they find areas where spending can be trimmed, without analyzing past spending?
Richard: tracking expenses is likely a multi-stage task and people may not always need to do so. For example, we started tracking our actual spending, all of it, as a means to identify where savings could be made. We identified a couple categories to focus on, and the savings from those reductions went to pay down our childrens’ college loans and enhance our savings and investments. Tracking what we spent became kind of a habit, and we continue to do so. What do we do with that information? It is mostly a check and balance tactic to identify where we might be allowing lifestyle creep to sneak in. Easy to rein in and really hasn’t restricted us from what we need, what we need to save for the future, and most importantly, what we want to do with what we’ve saved. Tracking isn’t for everyone, but we use it to our advantage. And yes, definitely, all credit card balances get zeroed out monthly!
Laura, good on you for helping this displaced couple. As for topics, you might want to click on the “Guide” section of HD, shown at the top center-right of the page. That will get you Jonathan’s writings on just about every personal finance topic.
But to start out more simply, maybe help them open a brokerage account where they can invest the savings you’re encouraging. One with topnotch customer service might be best—here on HD, Schwab and Fidelity seem to get the most kudos for that.
Andrew and I have the same first thought. The heart of HumbleDollar, and Jonathan Clements’s distilled wisdom, is found in his Guide.