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AUTHOR: Mark Bergman on 6/13/2025

Let’s all collectively do a real time experiment regarding my recent post/rant about the price of gas.   Facts :

1) Israel attacked Iran last night.

2) Refineries were NOT hit.

3) The Strait of Hormuz remains open

4) according to Google, it takes about 5-7 weeks for oil from the Middle East to arrive in the US

5) as I write this,  the price of oil has gone up 8.67 % since yesterday.

How long will it take, and by how much, for the price of gas at the pump go up near you ?

 

 

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mytimetotravel
6 months ago

Update: most gas in my area has gone up from $2.80 something to $2.99. B.J.s is still cheapest, but $2.78 instead of $2.59.

Rob Jennings
6 months ago

While I understand this is an important issue for many folks, I don’t spend time on what I can’t control including the price of gas. It goes up and it does down.

normr60189
6 months ago

“May inflation numbers showed that consumer prices rose by just 0.1% in May compared to the previous month, less than economists had anticipated. “

normr60189
6 months ago

Ever the face of irrelevance, Newsweek has published a map this week of the safest places in the US in the event of Nuclear Attack. Thank You MSM for this timely and comforting news! With the latest iteration of war in the Middle East our retirement portfolios have declined in value 0.57%. My Net Worth is 2.03% below the all-time high set in 2021. The end is nigh!

Last edited 6 months ago by normr60189
normr60189
6 months ago

On a side note, the price of eggs have been falling, too. Some stores do restrict purchases to one carton, 12 or 18 eggs.

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normr60189
6 months ago

As of now, gas prices have gone down. Range from $2.53 to $2.69 per gallon. Yawn! I don’t live in California.

Last edited 6 months ago by normr60189
John Redfield
6 months ago

I spent 33 years in oil and gas exploration, so I have a completely different set of prejudices than you. I doubt a discussion between us would prove to be fruitful, so let’s try AI

I asked ChatGPT, “Why does the price of gas go up faster than it goes down?” The reply follows:

The price of gasoline tends to rise quickly but fall slowly due to a combination of market dynamics, psychology, and industry practices. This phenomenon is often referred to as “rockets and feathers” pricing: prices shoot up like rockets and drift down like feathers.
 
Here’s why that happens:
 
⛽ 1. 
Wholesale vs. Retail Price Lag
 

  • When oil prices rise, gas stations pay more for their next shipment of fuel. To protect their slim margins, they raise prices immediately.
  • When oil prices fall, stations typically sell through their more expensive inventory first, delaying price cuts to avoid losses.

  
🏪 2. 
Station Competition & Pricing Behavior
 
 

  • When prices rise, all stations tend to move up together to match wholesale increases.
  • But when prices fall, competition among stations is weaker: no one wants to start a price war by cutting prices too early or too much.

 
💼 3. 
Market Power & Retail Strategy
 
 

  • Refineries and wholesalers may increase wholesale prices rapidly when crude oil goes up, but they’re slower to pass along savings.
  • Gas stations, especially branded ones (Shell, Exxon, etc.), may have less flexibility due to contracts or supply agreements. 

 
🧠 4. 
Consumer Perception & Inelastic Demand
 
 

  • Gas is a necessity for most drivers. Demand doesn’t drop much when prices rise, so companies know they can raise prices without losing many customers.
  • But if prices drop, they gain no competitive advantage unless the drop is big enough to attract attention.

 
🌎 5. 
Global Factors & Speculation
 
 

  • Crude oil markets react instantly to news, like geopolitical tensions or supply cuts.
  • That speculation immediately spikes prices, but removing uncertainty doesn’t always create an equal downward push.

  
In Short:
 
 
Gasoline prices go up faster than they go down because:
 

  • Sellers respond proactively to costs and cautiously to savings,
  • There’s asymmetry in competition and consumer behavior,
  • And global market volatility often pushes prices up faster than market stability brings them down.

End ChatGPT

Cecilia Beverly
6 months ago

I would be happy if the price of gas reflected its true cost, including externalities – pollution, effects on health, climate change and related mitigation efforts. A number of studies put that cost at ~$15/gallon.

mytimetotravel
6 months ago

According to Gasbuddy the cheapest in my town is $2.59 at BJ’s, followed by $2.61 at Harris Teeter. You could easily pay $2.80 something. Presumably Liam is paying more in tax.

The wholesale price no doubt went up in the not unreasonable expectation that the attacks were the start, not the end, of a military conflict.

Last edited 6 months ago by mytimetotravel
Liam K
6 months ago
Reply to  mytimetotravel

2.59? God, gas is so cheap! It genuinely boggles my mind that people complain about it as much as they do.

Liam K
6 months ago

Right now it’s 3.10/gallon where I’m at, but I’ll keep an eye out over the next week or two and report back. I don’t think it will go up much, if at all, but we will see.

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