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Let’s all collectively do a real time experiment regarding my recent post/rant about the price of gas. Facts :
1) Israel attacked Iran last night.
2) Refineries were NOT hit.
3) The Strait of Hormuz remains open
4) according to Google, it takes about 5-7 weeks for oil from the Middle East to arrive in the US
5) as I write this, the price of oil has gone up 8.67 % since yesterday.
How long will it take, and by how much, for the price of gas at the pump go up near you ?
Update: most gas in my area has gone up from $2.80 something to $2.99. B.J.s is still cheapest, but $2.78 instead of $2.59.
While I understand this is an important issue for many folks, I don’t spend time on what I can’t control including the price of gas. It goes up and it does down.
“May inflation numbers showed that consumer prices rose by just 0.1% in May compared to the previous month, less than economists had anticipated. “
Ever the face of irrelevance, Newsweek has published a map this week of the safest places in the US in the event of Nuclear Attack. Thank You MSM for this timely and comforting news! With the latest iteration of war in the Middle East our retirement portfolios have declined in value 0.57%. My Net Worth is 2.03% below the all-time high set in 2021. The end is nigh!
On a side note, the price of eggs have been falling, too. Some stores do restrict purchases to one carton, 12 or 18 eggs.
As of now, gas prices have gone down. Range from $2.53 to $2.69 per gallon. Yawn! I don’t live in California.
I spent 33 years in oil and gas exploration, so I have a completely different set of prejudices than you. I doubt a discussion between us would prove to be fruitful, so let’s try AI
I asked ChatGPT, “Why does the price of gas go up faster than it goes down?” The reply follows:
The price of gasoline tends to rise quickly but fall slowly due to a combination of market dynamics, psychology, and industry practices. This phenomenon is often referred to as “rockets and feathers” pricing: prices shoot up like rockets and drift down like feathers.
Here’s why that happens:
⛽ 1.
Wholesale vs. Retail Price Lag
🏪 2.
Station Competition & Pricing Behavior
💼 3.
Market Power & Retail Strategy
🧠 4.
Consumer Perception & Inelastic Demand
🌎 5.
Global Factors & Speculation
In Short:
Gasoline prices go up faster than they go down because:
End ChatGPT
Thanks for your post. It would take far too much time to respond to each of the points above in detail.
The upshot seems to be a combinations of 1) we keep prices higher just because we can, 2) incredible mental gymnastics about supply and demand and 3) price fixing and gouging.
I would be happy if the price of gas reflected its true cost, including externalities – pollution, effects on health, climate change and related mitigation efforts. A number of studies put that cost at ~$15/gallon.
According to Gasbuddy the cheapest in my town is $2.59 at BJ’s, followed by $2.61 at Harris Teeter. You could easily pay $2.80 something. Presumably Liam is paying more in tax.
The wholesale price no doubt went up in the not unreasonable expectation that the attacks were the start, not the end, of a military conflict.
2.59? God, gas is so cheap! It genuinely boggles my mind that people complain about it as much as they do.
Right now it’s 3.10/gallon where I’m at, but I’ll keep an eye out over the next week or two and report back. I don’t think it will go up much, if at all, but we will see.