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Buffett’s Other Guru

Dan Dawson

PUBLISHED IN 1958, Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits by Philip Fisher was the first investment book to make The New York Times bestseller list.

Never heard of Fisher? Berkshire Hathaway Chairman Warren Buffett points to two key influences on his investment thinking: legendary value investor Benjamin Graham—and growth-stock proponent Phil Fisher. Indeed, I’d argue that Fisher’s words of advice on bonds, dividends and war scares are as relevant now as they were in 1958.

Bonds. Back then, economic conditions were similar to today. Fisher cites a study from the First National City Bank of New York showing that from 1946 to 1956 the dollar lost 29% of its spending power. That’s a 3.4% annual rate of depreciation, while bonds returned just 2.2%. Moreover, Fisher shows that, even if you bought bonds at the higher yields available at the end of this 10-year stretch, you still wouldn’t have outpaced inflation.

“Of course, these figures are only conclusive for this one ten-year period,” concedes Fisher. “It seems to me that if this whole inflation mechanism is studied carefully, it becomes clear that major inflationary spurts arise out of wholesale expansions of credit, which in turn result from large government deficits greatly enlarging the monetary base of the credit system.” Sound familiar?

Then comes the prediction: “One of two courses seem inevitable. Either business will remain good in which event stocks will continue to outperform bonds, or a significant recession will occur.”

Fisher continues: “If this happens”—the recession, that is—”bonds should temporarily outperform the best stocks, but a train of major deficit producing actions will then be triggered that will cause another major decline in the true purchasing power of bond-type investments.” Because a recession will ultimately lead to more inflation, Fisher believes that bonds “do not provide for sufficient gain to the long-term investor to offset this probability of further depreciation in purchasing power.”

Dividends. Many investors favor stocks with high dividends. Fisher called this sort of investing “hullabaloo.”

Fisher didn’t like dividends because he believed they showed a business’s best growth years were behind it. He compared dividends to a farmer who “rushes his magnificent livestock to market the minute he can sell them rather than raising them to the point where he can get the maximum price above his costs. He has produced a little more cash right now but at a frightful cost.”

Dividends can be a wise choice for companies if they don’t have reinvestment opportunities that’ll earn a return greater than their cost of capital. But for Fisher, such a situation was a warning sign. He wanted stocks that could continue to grow for a long time.

“Dividend considerations should be given the least, not the most, weight by those desiring to select outstanding stocks,” he wrote. “Perhaps the most peculiar aspect of this much-discussed subject of dividends is that those [investors] giving them the least consideration usually end up getting the best dividend return. Worthy of repetition here is that over a span of five to ten years, the best dividend results will come not from the high-yield stocks but from those with the relatively low yield.”

The lesson: Ignore the dividends that a company is currently paying—because they tell you nothing about the returns you’ll get in the future.

War scares. With Russia battling Ukraine and Chinese spy balloons being shot down over U.S. territory, the world feels less safe. While this sort of thing might not make for a good night’s sleep, Fisher counsels the reader, “Don’t be afraid of buying on a war scare.”

His advice: “If actual hostilities break out, the price would undoubtedly go still lower, perhaps a lot lower. Therefore, the thing to do is to buy but buy slowly and at a scale-down on just a threat of war. If war occurs, then increase the tempo of buying significantly.” If hostilities broke out between, say, the U.S. and China, those who have the cash to take advantage could be richly rewarded.

After 2022’s sharp market decline and 2023’s turbulent start, it can be easy to get scared out of stocks. Meanwhile, bonds are more attractive than in recent years, and—depending on your risk tolerance and time horizon—they may be a good fit for you.

Remember, however, that stocks are still the best investment for the long run. If you can stay the course, you’ll reap the benefits of the stock market’s superior returns. Fisher’s old wisdom for stock investors still applies to this new age: “A good nervous system is even more important than a good head.”

Dan Dawson is a naval officer and student at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government. He is happily married to his high school sweetheart Emily. The views expressed here are his own and don’t reflect those of the U.S. government. 

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Doug Kaufman
1 year ago

I didn’t actually care for the article. Two items in particular:

one – ”Then comes the prediction: “One of two courses seem inevitable. Either business will remain good in which event stocks will continue to outperform bonds, or a significant recession will occur.”
Well no kidding-opposites.

2- “If hostilities broke out between, say, the U.S. and China, those who have the cash to take advantage could be richly rewarded.”
Do I just sit on a lot of cash waiting for something bad that may never arrive?

Steve Spinella
1 year ago
Reply to  Rob Thompson

I enjoyed this article, Dan, and also the paper from Hartford you reference, Rob. I suspect that the difference between their conclusions is that Hartford looks at reinvesting dividends with monthly rebalancing, while Fisher may not have done this as rigorously. (Granted, it was much harder to do in 1958!)
In general, perhaps a principle here is that the unacknowledged truths may lead to finding unappreciated value. Buffett, for one, has talked about how the tax code penalizes [rich] investors for accepting dividends, since they lose the ability to choose when they get taxed (or sometimes perhaps if they get taxed.)
Rich investors, like large companies, represent an outsized portion of the total market, so what matters for them matters for the markets as a whole. [But of course, smaller investors like me can sometimes benefit from choosing what the rich are disinclined to choose for unappreciated value.]

Klaatu
1 year ago

Shunning dividends is ignoring the value of compounding.

Rick Connor
1 year ago

Dan, thank you for your service and for the interesting article about Fisher. Hope to see more articles in the future.

mjflack
1 year ago

Be careful the way you talk about dividends, as it may be seen as heresy in these parts.

William Perry
1 year ago

Thank you for your current service to our country from a veteran of the US Army (1972-1974).

One of my financial regrets is not keeping in force the service offered life insurance.

In hindsight I was foolish to not have accepted the offer to buy a sufficient amount of term life insurance while I was active duty. I was fortunate in that I did not see combat in Vietnam as President Nixon started the troop reductions shortly before I was to deploy in late 1972. Events happen where good health becomes poor and you become no longer able to buy insurance to protect the financial risk to your wife, child and those you support should you die at a young age. I was lucky and managed to survive to my 70’s.

If you end up having to serve in a combat zone that time may be a great time to elect for your contributions to a retirement plan to be Roth as your W-2 earnings are typically excluded from being taxed during the combat deployment. The decision to Roth may be the last thing on your mind in the event of an order to combat (it was for me) so you may want to have your plans in place sooner than later.

It appears you are a first time writer at Humble Dollar. Glad you are here. I look forward to any future articles you may write. Thanks for writing about Phil Fisher, I plan to read further about or by him.

mytimetotravel
1 year ago

If you are young, all stocks all the time is probably the right course. I’m 75 and retired, I doubt they are the right course for me.

Martymac
1 year ago

Don’t agree with dividends. As an owner of a business (that’s what you are as a shareholder) you share in the profits of those companies and the growth of the dividends….coke,Pepsi,proctor and gamble.
income and rising income has always been the key to long term success

Nate Allen
1 year ago
Reply to  Martymac

While I don’t necessarily disagree, in the eternal “dividend vs. growth debate”, growth tends to outperform long term, likely due to being riskier. (Risk= more return over longer periods) However, those with a shorter timeframe should prefer dividend over growth, just as those with an even shorter timeframe should prefer bonds over stocks.

Or, one can just take the approach of indexing the entire market and get the benefit of both, which is likely what most HumbleDollar readers prefer.

Last edited 1 year ago by Nate Allen

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