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Could you be (justifiably) a source of envy by others? Are you wealthy?

A great deal of wrath these days seems to target the wealthy although that generally means billionaires or close to it. However, being wealthy is very relative. I suspect many HD readers are looked upon as wealthy by their peers while perhaps not feeling so themselves. I admittedly fall in that trap.

Many comments on HD by those retired indicate to me being relatively wealthy or pretty close to it. 

So, look at the data as estimated as it may be, and see for yourself. Would your friends, neighbors and relatives be justified in viewing you as wealthy – with a touch of envy?

For reference, latest data indicate:

Median household income: 

$80.6k overall:

peaks near $95k (45–64) 

and drops to $57k (65+).

Median net worth: 

$39k (<35) 

$409k (65–74) 

$336k (75+).

Average net worth: 

$183k (<35) 

$1.79M (65–74) 

down to $1.62M (75+).

Overall median net worth: $192.7k; average is $1.06M.

I’d say having a net worth in the 90th percentile makes a person wealthy in most people’s view.

Approximate 90th percentile net worth by age:

Age 45-54 $1.4 million

Age 55-64 $2.2 million

Age 65-74 $2.5 million

Age 75 + $2.00 million

These figures are estimates based on Federal Reserve and Census data, adjusted to 2024 dollars

Recent surveys suggest that a net worth of $2.2 million to $2.5 million is often cited as the threshold for being considered wealthy by the general public. However, this can vary significantly by location and by generation. I say it also depends on what is included In the numbers. If it is mostly one’s home, that makes a difference in my opinion. 

There is a difference between income and net worth of course. Someone can have a high income but not be truly wealthy if they spend it all or have significant debt. Conversely, someone with a modest income but significant assets may be considered wealthy.

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normr60189
1 year ago

Wealth is not financial health. Just as having more doesn’t necessarily make one happier.

Everything is relative. According to the World Inequality Database I am certainly “rich”. Here in the U.S., where one lives makes a difference, too. Housing has distorted wealth calculations, so it might be best to remove the value of a home asset because it isn’t liquid. On the other hand, if one’s home is paid off (no mortgage) and real estate taxes are low (<$5,000) then it may be reasonable to include the home in any calculations. However, after seeing how easy it is for this asset to go up in smoke (California) or float away (hurricanes and floods) it seems that including the house in certain calculations is questionable.

Income is a factor as is net worth, but there are certain areas of the country in which money simply doesn’t go as far. I use net worth, annual income and expense numbers for determining my financial “Health”. If I am financially healthy I do feel better and that is what really matters to me, and always did. I don’t care about any comparison to the situation of others.

Furthermore certain U.S. politicians would say I am not only rich, but very greedy because “I don’t pay my fair share.” I’m not alone as just about everyone in the top 10% in the U.S. is put in this basket by greedy politicians (yes, greed is relative too!).

https://wid.world/income-comparator/

Last edited 1 year ago by normr60189
luvsbluridg
1 year ago

Good morning! I’m Kenn and I live in Richmond, VA. I’m a long timer reader, first time posting.

In his book The Psychology of Money, Morgan Housel draws a crucial distinction between being rich and being wealthy. He argues that understanding this difference is key to making better financial decisions and achieving true financial well-being.

Here’s a summary of his points:
Being Rich:

  • Visible Income and Spending: Being rich is often about having a high current income and displaying that income through outward consumption. This can involve buying expensive cars, large houses, designer clothes, and other visible luxury items.
  • Present-focused: Richness is often about immediate gratification and spending money as it comes in. People who are rich might have a high cash flow, but their financial security is often tied to their continuous income. If the income stops, their “rich” lifestyle might quickly collapse.
  • Ego-driven: Housel suggests that many people seek to be rich to signal status and impress others. They spend money to show off their perceived success, often leading to a treadmill where their ego drives their spending, preventing true accumulation of assets.
  • Vulnerable to “Keeping Up”: The desire to appear rich can lead to a cycle of trying to “keep up with the Joneses,” constantly increasing spending to match or exceed the perceived wealth of others. This can make it difficult to build genuine financial security.

Being Wealthy:

  • Hidden and Unspent: Housel defines wealth as money you have saved and invested, money not spent. It’s the financial assets that haven’t been converted into tangible, visible possessions. You can’t see someone’s bank account or investment portfolio, so wealth is inherently hidden.
  • Future-focused (Delayed Gratification): Wealth is built through delaying gratification and prioritizing future options over immediate consumption. It’s about accumulating resources that provide long-term financial security and flexibility.
  • Freedom and Control: This is Housel’s core definition and the highest form of wealth. He defines wealth as “the ability to do what you want, when you want, for as long as you want.” This translates to control over your time, having the freedom to pursue passions, spend time with loved ones, or simply have the option to work less or not at all. It’s about autonomy and independence, rather than being beholden to a job to maintain a lavish lifestyle.
  • Savings Rate is Key: Building wealth has less to do with how much you earn and more to do with your savings rate. The gap between your income and your ego (what you spend to impress others) is where true wealth is accumulated.
  • Frugality and Paranoia: Housel emphasizes that getting wealthy often requires taking risks and optimism, but staying wealthy requires the opposite: a combination of frugality, humility, and a healthy dose of paranoia about losing what you’ve accumulated. It’s about preserving capital and avoiding ruin.

In essence, while being rich is about income and visible consumption, being wealthy is about accumulated assets and the freedom and control over your time that those assets provide. It’s a psychological state of security and optionality, rather than a display of material possessions.

Having lurked around this site for the last 5 years, it is my impression that most Humble Dollar participants are more focused on the benefits of wealth which provide freedom and control over their own destiny rather than shiny riches.

Just my thoughts.

Kenn

David Lancaster
1 year ago
Reply to  luvsbluridg

Based on the two definitions I guess I am wealthy, definitely not rich.

BTW there was an old TV show called Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. I never got the concept of why someone would want to watch someone show off their wealth. I just don’t care