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Bond Conundrum

With passage of the most recent Federal legislation the Congressional Budget Office projects another 3.5 trillion dollars added to the US debt over the next 10 years. The inevitable result of this will be the Federal Reserve having to increase interest rates.

In 2022 this scenario resulted in a bloodbath in my intermediate bond fund. I don’t remember in my copious reading any advanced warnings of prices dropping precipitously as interest rates increased (in fairness I had read about the inverse relationship between prices and yields, just no warning as to just how bad it could be). Since then I have converted all the money that was in my intermediate bond fund to short term ETFs to shorten my bond funds’ duration and thus limit any future damage from rising rates.

My question is do any Humble Dollar readers have any other suggestions as to how to get a decent return on these monies other than depositing these monies into a Federal money market fund?

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1 year ago

I’ve decided Federal Money Market Fund and Short Term Treasury Bond Fund will serve my purpose for bonds. Try as I have, I just don’t understand TIPS funds enough and do not want to manage ladders.

PAUL ADLER
1 year ago

Where is the best place to keep your money if you are a follower of William Bernstein: “If You’ve Won the Game, Stop Playing” and you are 80 years old?

John Redfield
1 year ago

OK, I am not completely sold on these products, but I also have not read any coverage in Humble Dollar about them. They are unfortunately named iShares iBonds (I think there’s another version called BulletShares by Invesco). They are built for laddering bonds. For example, IBDV targets Dec. 2030 maturity with Investment Grade Corporate bonds. You can also use US Treasuries, US TIPS, Municipals and High Yield baskets. IBDV has a 0.10% net expense ratio with 668 bond holdings. Current NAV is about 21.82 and the target NAV is approximately 25 in Dec. 2030. This target NAV is the same for all iShares iBonds. The large basket of bonds protects against any one bond defaulting. Interest payments occur throughout the life of the bond (monthly?).

In principle, one could readily build a ladder knowing what the expected maturity payout is and when it is. ETFs and Mutual Funds have this constantly moving payout date as bonds fall into and out of their target windows. This has been my greatest source of heart burn (e.g. 2022 capital loss) with bond baskets. Choosing bonds, other than US government issued, is a tricky business – not one I wish to learn. The net expense ratio is quite reasonable.

Does anyone have any first hand experience with these instruments?

normr60189
1 year ago

Don’t forget I-Bonds for set and forget longer term bond purchases. There are purchase limits imposed annually on individuals. These are easy to purchase via US government Treasury Direct website. One advantage is no tax on interest until the bond is cashed. Current rate is 3.98%.

These are longer term investments and there are early redemption interest penalties. In general, best to hold at least 5 years.

“The interest rate on a Series I savings bond changes every 6 months, based on inflation. The rate can go up. The rate can go down.

The overall rate is calculated from a fixed rate and an inflation rate. The fixed rate never changes. The inflation rate is reset every 6 months and, therefore, so is the overall rate.”

Last edited 1 year ago by normr60189
Bill C
1 year ago

I believe the movement of future interest rates is unknowable. I do however have some concern that some flavor of the 2022 bond market could show up though. I currently allocate to individual t-bills with durations out to 3 years, individual TIPs with durations to 5 years, I bonds (I’ve owned these for 25 years), and high yield corporates. Our bond holdings did well during 2022, though much of it was held in a stable value fund in my former 401k plan in the years leading up to 2022, and for the following year. Some may find this too much complexity though, and I may simplify these allocations to a simple 3 year t-bill laddie in my early 70s as I begin SS, and also see the majority of my I bond positions mature.

quan nguyen
1 year ago

I have SGOV ETF, TIP bonds, and T bills.

Short term ETF – for example SGOV, ultra short-term US Treasuries – provides ease of transaction, automatic reinvesting even with fractional share and maintenance, on top of exemption from State taxes. The cons are fluctuating NAV, lower yield than T bills and some money market accounts to cover the expense ratio.

With individual T bills, timing of maturity and tax deferral flexibility are the pros on top of no fee and state tax exemption. Tradeoffs are lower liquidity, maintenance complexity, and larger minimums needed for diversification.

TIP bonds: already said in my previous reply below.

John Yeigh
1 year ago

I’m with Norman, and have only bought bonds outright to eliminate the “bond conundrum” or potential “damage from rising rates.”

The whole purpose of the fixed income portion of the portfolio is to protect principal to provide comfort and stability, while letting the equity portion deliver growth. As you indicate with bond funds, we just don’t know what the principal will be in the outer years when some of the money might be needed – so bond funds indeed provide a fundamental “conundrum.” I’d rather accept the variability conundrum on the equity side of the equation.

stelea99
1 year ago
Reply to  John Yeigh

Even with individual bonds, when you do a balance sheet, the value of your bonds will have gone down when interest rates rise just like the value of the bond fund. Holding them until maturity only means that you will regain at least what you paid when they mature. Furthermore, if you ever do need to sell an individual bond before maturity, you will likely find that the amount you receive will be less than what your broker says is the current market price. I own TIPS that I purchased in 2002. Their value rises and falls with interest rates. When you own bonds whether in funds or the actual bonds, your net worth will rise and fall with changes to interest rates.

normr60189
1 year ago
Reply to  stelea99

If I own a bond I should receive the face value when I surrender it at maturity. I will also receive the coupon rate during the life of the bond, e.g. 3.8%.

TIPS are different because they are tied to inflation. The interest rate, or coupon, can rise or fall (TIPS rate is determined every 6 months). The interest rate will be applied to the principal value of the bond and the value of that principal will change during the life of the bond. Interest payments rise or fall as inflation changes. However, the government guarantees that the principal amount will be paid, no matter what the inflation rate.

Selling a bond before maturity incurs a cost as the “value” of the bond