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Two Fraudulent Attempts to Withdraw Funds in Two Days

Earlier this year, I had two attempts to withdraw funds from different financial institutions within a couple of days of each other. The first was an annuity. The hacker submitted a withdrawal form either by fax or US mail. I discovered it when I got an email asking me to resubmit the request with the correct SS#. I informed the company that I did not submit the request and they immediately locked my account.

This may have been an inside job because I submitted a request to change beneficiaries a few days earlier which was the first time I had contacted the company since the annuities were setup 2 years ago. The hacker listed a NYC phone number and asked for the funds to be sent to a FL credit union.

The 2nd attempt was an online request to a credit union where I hold CDs in VA. I was informed via email that they had received my request to withdraw funds. I contacted the CU immediately and informed them that I did not request an early withdrawal of funds. They had me set up a verbal passphrase which I must use anytime I contact them via phone. I learned that the person who gained access to my account called claiming to have “forgot” my password. The CU authenticated them using my personal identity information which I believe this person obtained on the darkweb.

After receiving the email, I was able to logon to my account but discovered that an unknown phone number had been added and my mobile number was deleted. I was able to reset my id/password using my landline, added my mobile phone number and deleted the unknown phone number. Once I informed the CU, they locked the account. One person at the CU said the PID for the online request came from either NY or CT. The annuity company is in NYC and the CU is in VA.

I reported this to my investment company. They thought my PC had been hacked. They transferred me to their security people who reviewed my security. They said my security was very sound. I got limited information from the two companies where the hacks were attempted. My annuity account is still locked which is fine because I plan to hold my annuities until maturity. I will still need to use my verbal password with the CU which is a minor inconvenience. I wonder how many other people are vulnerable to someone gaining access to their accounts using personal identity information obtained from the dark web?

I use strong passwords and non obvious ids for logon to sensitive accounts, so I am unclear how someone got into this annuity account, although I suspect an inside job. I am a widower and live alone. I have not shared my logon credentials with anyone. I use 2 factor authentication or better wherever possible.

I use Malwarebytes Premium and a top tier security product and do scans daily. No suspicious activity has been detected.

I have tightened my already tight accounts by setting text and/or email notifications for any changes or activity with my accounts.

The person attempting to hack my CU CDs must have used my personal identity information that is readily available on the dark web, including my SS#. I discovered that a large amount of information had been recently made available on the dark web that included some of my personal identity information.

Given this reality, I think that I and others need to assume that fraudsters can easily obtain our personal identity information on the dark web. There have been too many hacks of information from companies that we all use to assume otherwise. We need to do the things that are necessary to prevent damage to our identity and accounts. For example, freezing our credit which is easy to do. Also, setting alerts for all financial activity, monitoring account activity, using two factor authentication or other higher levels of authentication. I have considered switching to a password manager but have never pulled the trigger on that although I probably should.

Is your personal identity information for sale on the dark web?

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Linda Grady
24 days ago

To answer the final question in the article, we should all assume that our personal identification information is available for sale on the dark web, and has already been sold, right? I know two people who still shred every piece of paper with any identifying information before putting it in the recycling. Am I correct in thinking that this is a waste of their time and electricity? I still shred papers with my account numbers. Maybe I’m wasting my time doing that? I think we are well past the days when trash collectors would piece together shredded paper. The info is out there and we just have to be vigilant about noticing unauthorized activity.

DrLefty
24 days ago
Reply to  Linda Grady

Agreed—vigilant, plus use a password manager, plus two-factor authentication on everything important. (And don’t forget to tell loved ones to keep your phone handy for those 2FAs when you’ve crossed the Rainbow Bridge…)

Mike A
24 days ago

All of our info is out there at least a dozen times over. That’s a good news bad news scenario as there’s so much from so many, it’s hard to extract exactly what you want/need. AI will change that challenge substantially. Heres just a small list of the recent breaches: Yahoo, Equifax, Marriott / Starwood, Facebook / Meta, Capital One, T-Mobile, Microsoft, AT&T, Change Healthcare / UnitedHealth, Ticketmaster / Live Nation, 23andMe, MGM Resorts, Caesars Entertainment, Uber, Deloitte, Under Armour, Quora, British Airways, Cathay Pacific, DoorDash, Adobe, Nintendo, EasyJet, SolarWinds, JBS Foods, Colonial Pipeline, Kaseya, Neiman Marcus, Peloton, Robinhood, Cash App / Block, LastPass, Optus, Dropbox, Dish Network, Norton LifeLock, Western Digital, Dell, Panera Bread, Advance Auto Parts, National Public Data, Krispy Kreme, Cencora, Aflac, Conduent, Coupang, DentaQuest

B Carr
24 days ago

I third the advice on using a password manager. The fraudsters are getting bolder.

I get 1-2 scam phone calls a year. The first one this year came in the other day from a non-native English speaker who gave me 24 hours to respond to a phone number she gave, else she’d dispatch a SWAT team to break down my door and arrest me.

Mike Xavier
24 days ago

The verbal password to transact is a must. My identity has been stolen, so anyone can provide my social security number and other personal information. They can’t provide the verbal password. As disconcerting as it is, this is our reality.

Jo Bo
24 days ago
Reply to  Mike Xavier

I don’t have verbal passwords, but they seem very worthwhile. When I call Fidelity to transact business or ask questions about my account, they require a voice check. That I believe is less secure. For security reasons, keeping audio of one’s voice off the internet and answering machines is likely important.

DAN SMITH
24 days ago

Thanks so much for taking the time to post your story. this is a great reminder to review beef up our security.

G Mzz
24 days ago

You are correct. Your data is already compromised and held by many legal and illegal dark entities. It’s a defensive game today by installing as many deterrents and authentication levels and alerts as you can. The voice / mail vectors are a weak link in authentication. You would be shocked to learn how many will use the last 4 of your Social security number or mother’s maiden name as a qualifier. Maybe 30 years ago they were sufficient. No more.

Set up those alerts for any account changes to your email, phones, text and USPS if possible. Reaction time is critical to thwarting these activities and / or recovering lost funds.

Michael1
24 days ago

A good reminder that even though your security is strong it can still happen, especially through the means you describe, the institution authenticating the fraudster with personal info you can’t fully protect.

We recently adjusted notifications on our credit cards to dramatically lower the amount of a charge that causes us to get notified. We get more notifications but seems worth it.

I do recommend pulling the trigger on the password manager. It does a lot more for you than remember passwords.

Last edited 24 days ago by Michael1
Mike Gaynes
24 days ago
Reply to  Michael1

Any particular recommendations for a password manager?

Randy Dobkin
22 days ago
Reply to  Mike Gaynes

I use the Microsoft Edge browser on my PC, iPad, and Android phone.

Michael1
24 days ago
Reply to  Mike Gaynes

Yes, but even better, I have these recommendations from Mike Piper.

https://obliviousinvestor.com/password-managers/

DrLefty
24 days ago
Reply to  Mike Gaynes

I use 1Password. There was a bit of a learning curve, but now I have it humming.

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24 days ago
Reply to  Nick Politakis

Article behind a paywall. Perhaps I can get through my library.

Nick Politakis
24 days ago
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