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The High Cost of Financial Advice: A Tale of Two Portfolios Revisited

Last summer, I wrote about a frustrating dynamic in our household: I manage my portfolio with low-cost index funds, while my wife Suzie pays nearly 2% annually to a wealth manager. Several comments asked for an update on my campaign to win her over to a lower-cost approach that would benefit our combined future wealth.

My initial efforts got Suzie to open a Vanguard account, which we funded with cash in a money market fund. This let her get comfortable with the platform. The plan was to gradually transfer money from her wealth manager into a simple 60/40 allocation between a global developed markets fund and a global bond fund. But we never got there. Despite gentle encouragement, Suzie couldn’t bring herself to give up the psychological safety net her advisor provided.

We hit a stalemate. Suzie acknowledged the fees were excessive, but she wouldn’t actually make the move. The issue simmered in the background for six months until her next scheduled review meeting at a local coffee shop. Beforehand, I asked if I could push hard on the fees and hint that we might move the account if they couldn’t negotiate. She gave me the green light.I accepted their free coffee and, after some small talk, got to work. When they claimed active management outperforms, I asked to see their net-of-fee performance benchmarked against a basic 60/40 portfolio. The meeting stretched on much longer than expected—I even got a free lunch out of it.

The compromise we reached isn’t something I’d choose for myself, but it’s a massive improvement for Suzie. Though I’ll admit, I was skeptical about the timing.

It seems they’d recently partnered with a large UK investment firm to offer lower-cost portfolios to clients. Had this option always existed and they just hadn’t mentioned it? Or did our threatened departure conveniently coincide with this new partnership? I never got a straight answer. While the advisor presented this alternative to their proprietary solutions, I spotted Vanguard funds in the mix. After some follow-up questioning, we learned they could offer standalone Vanguard funds at the same cost as going direct through Vanguard.

Suzie now holds a 60/40 portfolio of low-cost Vanguard index funds with total fund expenses of 0.19%, plus a separate advisor fee of 0.39%. In return, the advisor has committed to providing financial planning that incorporates both of our portfolios into coordinated tax optimization and estate planning strategies.

Is 0.58% in total fees what I’d choose for myself? Absolutely not. But if the promised holistic service actually materializes, and that’s something we’ll only know over the coming year. It could represent reasonable value, particularly since I’d be benefiting from tax coordination and estate strategies we weren’t paying for separately. Time will tell whether these services deliver or whether they were simply the language needed to justify the fee when I pushed hard on costs.

But here’s what I’m thinking: being right about fees doesn’t matter if your partner won’t act on it. For six months, we had an impasse while Suzie’s wealth manager collected nearly 2%. Now we’ve cut those fees by 70% and Suzie still has the reassurance she needs.

I feel progress isn’t always about getting to optimal. Sometimes it’s about finding what your partner can actually live with, and, to my mind, that’s worth far more than being theoretically correct. In life, a good compromise is better than no compromise.

A note on cultural difference: In my first article on this issue a few comments asked why we had separate portfolios. Our investments are held in accounts which by UK law must be individual accounts—joint pension or tax-advantaged accounts simply don’t exist here.

 

 

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William Dorner
8 months ago

Great article and thanks for sharing. For your situation, you made amazing progress. Somehow I lucked out and learned about Bogle and Vanguard. I am a self advisor, and am very satisfied especially in retirement with the S&P 500 index funds from both Vanguard and Fidelity. Dad taught me well, never have all your eggs in one basket even for the largest companies, no company is too big to fail, and I will include our US Government with $44 trillion and counting deficit.

Robert J. Miller
8 months ago

Giving 95% of my investable assets to a Financial Manager was the best thing I ever did. Well worth the 1.25%. I actively trade with the remaining 5%, and that scratches the itch. I can’t make emotional errors with most of my funds anymore. There is more value in the expense than most people think about. I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I needed that moat to be smart with my money.

Andy Morrison
8 months ago