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AUTHOR: R Quinn on 10/26/2024

I just made my annual trip to the bank to cash matured US savings bonds I purchased through payroll deduction thirty years ago. 

In the olden days it was simple – fill out a form at work and when you accumulated the purchase price for the bond value you designated, you received a bond in the mail. Because of the way pay periods worked, I received 13 a year.

When I mentioned to the young teller I had accumulated the bonds through payroll deductions she didn’t understand, I briefly explained it and she said, “that sounds like a good idea.” Yeah it was. In fact, the process was supported by many employers. We were encouraged to buy bonds as a patriotic act. I once received a tie with eagles on it as a reward for being a local savings bond campaign committee chair person. 

I don’t expect savings bonds are a top investment for most in the HD community. EE bonds currently pay 2.7% although mine are so old they pay 3.6% and some in the 6% range. 

Apparently the simplicity of payroll deductions is no longer possible. According to Treasury Direct you have to hope your employer does direct deposit – and then:

“The amounts you have direct deposited from your pay are used to buy a Payroll Certificate of Indebtedness (C of I) which is a non-interest-bearing security that is used as the source of funds for your savings bond purchases.

Amounts you keep in your Payroll C of I earn no interest and remain there until used.  The Payroll C of I can be redeemed at any time.  The funds are usually deposited to your bank account within two business days. That’s all there is to it.”

That’s ALL there is too it? 

Sounds like backward progress to me and certainly not user friendly. 

I’m lucky, my bank – Chase – will cash my bonds given I’m a customer. However, today I was informed they will only cash a bond if the face value plus interest does not exceed $200. On the other hand, a 2023 New York Times article said Chase had imposed a $500 limit. I called the Chase customer service number and they couldn’t clarify, but told me to go to a branch. I asked if each branch had their own policy and I was told “ I have no information on that.” I called my branch but was transferred to another central customer service agent who thought there was a limit and thought it was $500, but had no information to verify. Visit a branch I was told. 

If you can’t cash a bond at a bank, you need to have a Treasury Direct Account and follow their mail in process to cash bonds which is more paperwork and possibly having to have your signature certified.  

Will my bonds reach the Treasury? I hope someone has a record of the bonds I own, I sure don’t. Ah, this is the time to photocopy them all. 

I’m all for online transactions, leveraging technology and all that, but if you have a Treasury Direct account you better make sure your survivors know where and how to access it. 

And I thought I was being patriotic. My patriotism is being tested by two bureaucracies.

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G W
4 months ago

Glad to own a handful of inherited, paper I-Bonds from 2000 – $5K currently worth just short of $22K and still pulling about 6.5%. However, I do need to have the registration updated on each of these for owner and beneficiary. It appears I need to mail these to TD to complete the process which will also place them electronically into my TD account. Photocopies already in hand, I’m not too excited about the process. Seems like you should be able to do this online. Am I missing this option from their website?

Marjorie Kondrack
4 months ago
Reply to  G W

GW..for full clarification you should call Treasury Direct at 844 284-2676 but as I have had to complete this process I’ll try to help. If you do not already have a TD account you will first have to open one and that you can do online. You will then have to file form FS4000 which you can download or request from the Treasury, fill it out—it comes with instructions, and send it to Treasury Direct along with the bonds.

Winston Smith
4 months ago

Wow!

Thanks for writing about YOUR experience.

In our experience Chase Customer Service is
somewhat ‘spotty’.

Their credit card support has been great!!

Basic Banking tasks … not so much.

Rick Connor
4 months ago

I had a similar experience at work. Since I worked in Aerospace and Defense it was expected we would participate in payroll deductions. I moved them all to my Treasury Direct account some years ago.

I also remember when savings bonds were a typical gift for things like birthdays and religious milestones. We’ve gifted our grandsons some Bonds – you can print an acknowledgment but it’s not quite the same as holding a fancy bond.

The cash-in limits are new to me. I remember taking my mother-in-law to her local Wells Fargo bank and cashing dozens of bonds. The brach manager was very nice and helped her get through with a minimum of hassle.

I’ve never been involved in the mechanics of transferring a Treasury Direct account when someone dies. I get the sense it’s not easy?

B Carr
4 months ago
Reply to  Rick Connor

Set up a beneficiary on your Treasury Direct account and take a screenshot of the webpage showing all the info. Put it with your final financial papers.

Last edited 4 months ago by B Carr
Rick Connor
4 months ago
Reply to  B Carr

thanks – I set up a beneficiary and put in account details in my final instructions but the screenshot is a good idea

stelea99
4 months ago

You might check with a local credit union. Often these institutions are more consumer friendly than a big bank and will handle EE redemptions if you have an account. The often have lower or no account fees, give credit for deposits faster etc. Big Banks have little to recommend them.

Harold Tynes
4 months ago

I gave up on banks 20 years ago and opened a TD account. I then packed up my Ibonds and mailed them off to West Virginia. I had purchased them in 2000-2003 and they have had a good return. At the time, you could buy Ibonds with a credit card so I got my 2% on top of the return. I am looking at maturities in a few years on that group of bonds. I bought a few more when their rates spiked to over 9%. I will be selling off those this year. If you want more info on Ibonds, TIPs or Treasury Direct, I suggest Dave Enna’s website Tipswatch.com.

Marjorie Kondrack
4 months ago

Dick…I think you may find that there are no EE bonds currently paying 6%. Those bonds dropped to 4% sometime ago.
As for the bank rules regarding cashing savings bonds, they do have different policies. Some will cash larger amounts if you put the proceeds of the bonds in an account you may have at that particular bank.
They were easy to buy, but keeping track of them and cashing them at a fortuitous time is a little bit bothersome. Better to just send them to the Treasury where they will become part of your Treasury Direct account

The Treasury Department does keep a record of savings bonds. If you keep them beyond the maturity date, after three years they may send you a letter reminding you that you should cash them to keep your money working for you.

Michael1
4 months ago
Reply to  R Quinn

I’m starting to feel the same way. Doesn’t seem worth the hassle especially for a survivor.

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