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Here’s another car-themed Forum post. Last June I wrote a Humble Dollar article about vehicle ownership and longevity. I ended that article with a description of the most recent major repair required for my 2011 Subaru Forester when the clutch assembly failed and required replacement. Those of you wishing to revisit that article can view it here.

I mentioned at the end of that article it might be time to search for another Subaru. At the end of 2024 I read about the introduction of a Subaru Forester option in the new model year – a hybrid. I dropped by my closest dealership to test drive a non-hybrid Forester with the features I wanted, explained I wanted a hybrid and they agreed to maintain contact. I wanted the most up-to-date safety features.

In March the salesperson texted with tentative hybrid deliveries and MSRP information. I told them that I would not purchase a vehicle if it was subject to tariffs. In April they texted with information about available colors, features, and availability. Two weeks ago, I bought one.

The biggest surprise of the whole negotiation was that they took my old Subaru in trade for a value I considered acceptable. When I thought about cleaning/detailing it for sale, posting on sale sites, negotiating, simultaneous insurance for two vehicles, purchasing duplicate license tags, and other factors, their offer seemed reasonable.  Then we found that the trade-in value reduced the sale price of the new Subaru, which in turn reduced the NC sales tax charged on the transaction. It was worthwhile to accept their offer.

I’m still reading about and experiencing new features. Some things are on by default, while others need to be turned on/off by the driver. I’m still enjoying the new-car smell. I’ve only reached for the nonexistent manual stick shift a couple of times.

This may be my last vehicle. I turn 72 soon. In 2024 I drove less than 7,000 miles in the Forester, and that’s with trips to the mountains, beach, and DC. When I sold the old car in May 2025, I’d added less than 3,000 miles since January 1st. For the prior three years I averaged around 9,000 miles per year. So even if I took Spock’s advice to “live long and prosper” I won’t accumulate a lot of mileage even if I continue to drive well into my 80’s. I’ll note that my Dad was still driving at 91, but he shouldn’t have done so. I’ve promised my wife I won’t be as stubborn as my Dad when the time comes to give up the keys.

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stelea99
1 year ago

Gee, my 2009 Forester has around 54000 miles. At 79, and buying maybe 10G of gas a month, it seems likely to be my last car. The mileage for the 10G isn’t material.

MTBob
1 year ago

I’ll offer a contrarian view. When I turned 80 in 2023, I bought a new Subaru Outback – the first new vehicle that I’ve purchased since buying a new Dodge diesel pickup in 1998. All my life I’ve worked on, repaired and maintained my vehicles with the idea that I’ll run them til the wheels fall off.
But, after driving the new Subaru for a couple of years all that has changed. What I’m driving now is not a Car, but a computer with wheels attached, it’s my Computer-Mobile.
I can no longer work on the thing. The vehicle functions solely through some form of obscure computer algorithms, touch screens, that include alarms, beeps and driver controls of all kinds. This is all coupled a with less than robust mechanical drive train that is mated to the computer. I’ll suggest that, at best, it’s a troubled marriage.
So, I have no confidence that this Computer-Mobile will hold up any better than the dozens of laptops, desktops and mobile phone computers I’ve purchased over the last couple of decades.
Thus, my strategy now is to own my Subaru Computer-Mobile until the 3 year bumper-to-bumper factory warranty is about to expire and then sell the old one and buy another new one, just like I did with all my other computers.
Yup, that’s likely not a least cost approach. But, now that I’m into my 80’s my vehicle ownership attitude has changed completely. I’m not about to take on the repair and maintenance obligations of this computer, I want the manufacturer to retain that problem.
BTW: Having said all that – I actually kind of like our Subaru Outback and will likely buy another one to use for about 2 1/2 years.

Doug K
1 year ago
Reply to  MTBob

+1
65 now, bought what I thought would be my last car, Ford Maverick hybrid. I love it.. but it is a computer appliance with an engine, I can’t work on it. This has been troubling my sleep, slightly.
My old car, 2004 Ford Sport Trac, was something I had confidence that I could repair most anything up to a transmission rebuild. This new truck ?
I have to have faith that Ford has made reliable hybrids (C-Max) for years now, and hope..

David Lancaster
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug K

Last fall we bought what might be our last vehicle a Toyota Crown Signia hybrid. It gets just a hair shy of 40 MPG. Toyota manufactured their first hybrid engine in 1997, so almost three decades ago. I’m guessing they’ve figured them out and have the most reliable hybrid vehicles.

American vehicle manufacturers were slow to the party, so I’m a little leery of purchasing a hybrid from one of them.

Doug K
1 year ago

Ford licenses its hybrid tech from Toyota.. this is one of the things I researched before getting the Maverick 😉

R Quinn
1 year ago

Is that 40 mph regular driving around or highway? Just curious.

My car is four cylinder with turbocharger and I get 44 mpg on highway driving and around 31-32 normal driving.

Actually, I was surprised with those numbers, especially highway.

Last edited 1 year ago by R Quinn
Casey Campbell
1 year ago
Reply to  R Quinn

What kind of car do you have? Sorry if I missed it elsewhere.

David Lancaster
1 year ago
Reply to  R Quinn

Definitely highway, and probably “around town”. I put around town in quotes as we live in the boonies where our “downtown” is a local convenience store with a small take out kitchen and gas pump, an elementary school (we have contracts with other towns for high school), town office, police and fire station, and library. No stores, nor traffic lights.

Hybrids in general are less efficient on highways if they’re not bumper to bumper. Around here that only occurs if there is an accident. They’re most efficient in cities with stop and go traffic and low speeds.